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Hello everyone

Well then, after long and thoughtful considerations I have decided to build me a budget gaming desktop :-)

But now stands the question; should it be an Intel or an AMD build?

Basically what I need is a PC that will play Starcraft II (preferably on Ultra settings), but as this is pretty much the only game that I am playing, it feels kinda like a waste to go with a +1000$ build.. So a budget setup it is ;-)

I have narrowed it down to two configurations, and hope that someone will be able to give me some reflections on these two systems.
Which one would be the better?
What kind of performance am I going to see?
Any obvious hardware replacements (in the same price range)?

Intel (700$)
Pentium G870
ASRock B75M-DGS
Gigabyte GV-N660OC-2GD (2 GB)
Corsair Vengeance 1 x 4 GB
Kingston SSDNow V300 120 GB
Corsair CX500M
LiteOn iHAS120
Zalman ZM-T2


AMD (725$)
Phenom II X4 965 BE
ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX
Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 Royal King (2 GB)
Corsair Vengeance 1 x 4 GB
Kingston SSDNow V300 120 GB
Corsair CX750M
LiteOn iHAS120
Zalman ZM-T2


Initially I set out with a budget of 600$, so both of the builds are pretty much over budget (any recommendations for downgrades that won't effect performance much?)

One of my main concerns is how the GPUs will work with the CPUs. Is it a GPU-overkill?
The GPU in both scenario stands for approx. 1/3 of the total cost, so it is quite tempting to go for a cheaper GPU, such as the GTX 650 or HD7770.

Gigabyte GV-N660OC-2GD (2 GB) = 235$
Gigabyte GV-N650OC-1GI (1 GB) = 134$

Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 Royal King (2 GB) = 214$
MSI R7770-PMD1GD5 (1 GB) = 140$


The PSU is also pretty expensive (same cost as the CPUs, approx. 100$). Is there a better choice when considering both price and noise levels?

And what about the Mobos? The listed mobos are not good for overclocking, as I take it(?). Any good alteratives, that will allow overclocking, without braking the bank..?


I hope that someone can help me a bit further along the way :-)
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This would likely be the best middle ground for your GPU desires(and I'm pretty sure overkill still)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

I'd post a full build, but I was heading to bed as this was posted. I'll post/edit a build in here in about 10 hours.
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*edit* Another double post because of my mouse >.>
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Starcraft II runs so much better with intel according to all the benchmarks so I would suggest going with intel, but it is a CPU intensive game so place more money on the CPU, get an i5 maybe
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I know that this comes in at 5% over budget, but I believe that this is the optimal configuration for what you have in mind:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $736.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-20 07:16 EDT-0400)
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Here is a quick build a GTX 650Ti seems to be just enough for SCII. As far as CPU goes, you are going to want an intel chip, SCII is not heavily threaded, but is very cpu intensive. It loves CPUs with good single threaded performance.

Now, I don't know how much VRAM SCII uses, but as long as you are playing at 1080p or below, I would assume 1GB of VRAM is enough. If you want to put AA on max, you probably should look into a 2GB GTX 650 Ti.

I added a 1TB HDD for storage, so you could always remove that if you wanted to save a little bit of money.
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CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec VSK-3000 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $668.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Edited by Ironman517 - 5/20/13 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by Alanim View Post

This would likely be the best middle ground for your GPU desires(and I'm pretty sure overkill still)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

I'd post a full build, but I was heading to bed as this was posted. I'll post/edit a build in here in about 10 hours.

Looking forward :-)
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Starcraft II runs so much better with intel according to all the benchmarks so I would suggest going with intel, but it is a CPU intensive game so place more money on the CPU, get an i5 maybe

Well, I could go for the I5-650. That would set me back 140$ (I'm living in Denmark, and the taxes on electronics is crazy..)

For example, a I5-3550 will cost me 260$ = almost half my original budget... frown.gif

As a matter of fact, I would indeed like to go with a I5, but as I am already over budget.... frown.gif
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it would help if you give us a site where you might get these parts.

I'd go with the Phenom build if you end up chosing between the two builds BUT pick a 2X 2Gb Ram to take advantage of the Dual channel mode for both configurations. Maybe give up the ssd for now and go for a cheaper HDD and channel that savings to an i5 IVY build or a stronger gpu like the 7870.
Edited by rdr09 - 5/20/13 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by svenge View Post

I know that this comes in at 5% over budget, but I believe that this is the optimal configuration for what you have in mind:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $736.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-20 07:16 EDT-0400)

That sure is a nice config :-)
Would like to get that, but as I wrote AlDyer, the Danish prices are a bit out of the ordinary... :-(

I5-3470 = 230$
GA-B75M-D3H = 87$
Crucial Ballistix 2x4GB = 79$
Samsung 840 120GB = 119$
WD 1TB = 79$
MSI GTX 660 TI = 336$
NZXT Source 210 = 82$
Rosewill (not sold in DK) = Corsair CX500M = 77$
LG DVD writer = 27$

That brings us to a total of 1116$... :-(

Is the G870 or Phenom really that bad?

I don't want to go for a build that I am going to regret, but as you can see, even a "modest" I5-build is quite price-heavy here in Denmark.. Sure, we have H.C. Andersen and the little mermaid, but we also have some of the highest taxes in the world...
Edited by NISB123 - 5/20/13 at 8:07am
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