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I'm putting together a gaming pc, which, while not recommended, I am making purchases towards each week. My plan is appx. $500 per week until it's done. So far, I've already got the CPU, cooler and mobo. What I'd like help with, is determining if the rest of the system is balanced properly for my cpu choice, and if there are any changes I could make to reduce some of the cost, without sacrificing performance.

I do plan on overclocking the CPU, but since this will be my first 'real' overclocking build, I intend on using ASUS' AI Suite to help me with that. I do realize that to get every clock cycle I can out of the processor that it is better to overclock manually, I don't really have the patience or knowledge to do it properly, so auto overclock is the way for me to go.

I was considering going with a gtx 770 or gtx 680 as I understand the 7970 can be a bit loud(ie sounds like a vacuum cleaner under load) but from what I've read, the 7970 is a better performing card.

The only thing that I cant compromise on is the case, as it was hard enough getting the wife to agree to the C70 on the list. I'm not sure if I want to try to convince her a different choice would be better, as she's pretty tired of hearing about this in general.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Already Purchased:
Quote:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.98 @ Outlet PC)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.66 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($96.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($418.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VE258Q 25.0" Monitor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Rosewill RK-9000BL Wired Standard Keyboard ($58.24 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1824.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-20 09:57 EDT-0400)

Any suggestions? I have put a couple of computers together in the past, but this will be my first brand new, 'complete' build so I want to make sure I'm not overlooking something.

Thanks for looking!

EDIT: changed video card, memory, monitor and keyboard
Edited by emccarthy25 - 5/22/13 at 8:25am
post #2 of 7
Grab this video card if you want a cool and quiet card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121560
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@0CALEFACTION0: I did a little reading about the video card you suggested. It looks like a good card, and if needed, it appears I 'should' be able to OC it to GHz speeds without much hassle. Of course, keeping it stock keeps it cool, right? I appreciate the suggestion, and have updated my parts list accordingly.
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Two friends of mine have the card, one GHz and one non-GHz. They were able to get them to the same clocks easily. Temps are really low on stock, and get high when you start to torture it.
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A few things really.

If you can return your mobo, please do so. If you are going to be doing any overclocking the heat sinks they have on the power delivery system is rather pathetic and will get pretty hot. If you get this mobo here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293 it will be better for overclock and since it comes with 8 GB of free ram, it will also save you some cash thumb.gif

Also, if all you will be doing is gaming and maybe some light video editing, then 8GB is all you will need. Seriously, do not waste your money on ram you don't need.

A great case that is mature enough to make your wife happy, yet flashy enough to make you happy is the fractal design define R4 with window http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352021 . It is also designed to be quiet, so your wife won't get on your case over a loud PC thumb.gif . IDK if it matters, but it is also 10 bucks cheaper.

The monitor is kind of over priced and mundane. This is a 2560x1440p monitor for a little over 400 bucks. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=10489&seq=1&format=2 . There is not much to say about it other the the fact that the picture quality will blow you away.....period. An alternative would be this monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288 it is 2 inches smaller (which isn't much) but it is cheaper AND it is an IPS screen VS a TN. thumb.gif


Adata has never been a reliable company for storage. Samsung is MUCH more reliable. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147189

As for the mouse, if you have larger hands and like FPS/MMO games then this mouse is the way to go. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104674 . You can program the buttons to be a weapon switch or a frag grenade. In any situation, it allows you to keep your left hand on the WSAD keys which is always a good thing for gamers.

Keyboard. Again this is sort of an over priced keyboard. http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=57022&vpn=RZ03-00390100-R3U1&manufacture=Razer&promoid=1398 This is a FULLY mechanical keyboard and uses cherry MX blue switches. They are clicky and are a bit better for FPS games in my opinion.

Everything else is good.
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post #6 of 7
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@Tjj226 Angel

Sadly, the mobo is beyond the return policy. When I started gathering my parts, I had a 4 week plan, but was only able to complete the first week purchases. That was a bit over a month ago.

While I do understand that 8 GB is enough, generally speaking, for what I want to do, I had been considering setting up either a ram cache or a ram drive. I could definitely be convinced there is no need for either of those setups, at which point, I'd be happy to drop down to 8GB.

Regarding the case, my wife did NOT want a black case, nor did she want white -
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Originally Posted by My Wife 
EVERY computer is black, and white will just show dirt!
I was considering a bitphenix prodigy build, but she doesn't want red(so orange is out also)

While the monitor I specced may be a bit overpriced, it's not $475(the monitor you linked to at monoprice) I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236331 which is a 24" IPS made by ASUS going for $260 at newegg, but then I'd have to shave a few bucks off my build, which I'm finding to be difficult.

The sx910 ssd by adata in my list comes with a 5 year warranty, as compared to the 3 year offered for the samsung. The adata also has about twice as fast sequential and 4k random write speeds. I assume, though that it's the read speeds that are more important? I am seeing much faster 4k random read speeds from the samsung. If the write speed isn't as critical, and if I would notice the difference in the read speeds, we can consider this part changed.

I have looked at a few mice, including the Logitech g600, but I am finding that I don't care for tons of buttons on them. I understand that being able to program 18 different weapons/spells/abilities/macros to the different buttons by my thumb CAN be convienent, and fast, once I trained myself in their location, I'm more old school, and prefer less buttons on the mouse. I also have pretty much stopped playing MMO games, which seems like the necessity for that many buttons becomes unnecessary for my situation. Are there any other mice that you would recommend?

In regards to the keyboard, the one I specced out is also a fully mechanical keyboard, and is equipped with Cherry Red switches, which I would prefer to have. I don't really care about lights, macros, scroll wheels, usb and audio ports that get added on to the keyboard, so I will definitely keep my mind open in this regard. What I DO want, is the aforementioned Cherry Red switches, a 'full' keyboard - I've seen some that don't have function keys, or don't have the numpad. I also would like to avoid any of the 'compact' keyboards out there. I'm typing on one right now(it's also a wireless membrane by logitech) and it gives my hands cramps, which I assume is partly due to its size.

Thanks for the suggestions. A couple of them seem to be fairly easy to swap out/change(ssd, ram), but others like the input/output devices are becoming more challenging to make a decision on


EDIT: I just did some math, and if I swap out the 16GB of ram for a similar 8GB kit, and also swap out the SSD for the samsung you recommended, that will drop my budget by $99, which will more than cover the difference in cost for the 24" IPS monitor I linked to above. Thoughts on the RAM cache or RAM drive idea?
Edited by emccarthy25 - 5/21/13 at 7:19am
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I guess, since there have been no other comments on this, I can consider this build a go. Thanks to all who read, and especially to those who commented
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