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I've in recent months begun my adventures into the realm of server equipment and after building myself a server, buying a few backup batteries and other various rack mountable goodies I went and purchased myself a rack enclosure. Unfortunately not all of my equipment came with rails so I will need to purchase a few but I'm not sure what to get.

This is the rack enclosure I purchased

http://www.dsiwholesalers.com/item.cfm?id=140&itemname=DSI%2036U%20Server%20Rack%20Enclosure%20-%20DSI%201036

I do need the rails to be able to support a decent amount of weight, for now I need to be able to mount and support 2 of these...

http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups-systems/smart-app-ups/pp-series/PR2200SWRM2U.html

If you kind folks wouldn't mind helping guide me on my little adventure I would greatly appreciate it biggrin.gif
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Rails should be universal.... just check eBay.
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Rails should be universal.... just check eBay.

That is what I thought, but when I started looking at rails some of them had different lengths listed like 19" 20" 22" and said they supported enclosures with depths of between X-Y so I was like uhhhh.... To OCN!!
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That is what I thought, but when I started looking at rails some of them had different lengths listed like 19" 20" 22" and said they supported enclosures with depths of between X-Y so I was like uhhhh.... To OCN!!


"•Four post, depth adjustable rack system with 19" mounts and square holes"
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post #5 of 17
Rails are not always universal, when it comes to chassis mounting.

Racks usually have adjustable rear posts for anywhere from 19-22", allowing for deep equipment, or standard equipment (which also gives you more room to manage your cables).

Also, PSUs are best mounted at or near the bottom of your rack. Gives your rack a better center of gravity, and if any rails were going to break it would probably be on your PSUs.

I just realized that the PSU you linked has rack ears on it already. If you mount it at the very bottom of your rack, it can rest on the bottom of your rack and mount in place. Thus, no rails needed.
post #6 of 17
Depth depends on the rack you bought, but most rails are expandable, ie, universal on depth. They will attach on both the front and the back and they have a support system built into them to hold the weight between, assuming you don't buy a "fixed" length rail. I haven't seen anything like those in ages though unless they come with a 4-post enclosure and are made specifically for that enclosure alone.

As far as width (19" 20" 22") goes, unless your rails for some reason span the width of the rack, which they shouldn't, that doesn't even matter. All they should do is run the depth of your enclosure to support the equipment down the sides from front to back. But just for reference, that rack enclosure uses a 19" mounting standard, so if you buy shelves (not rails) you will want to double check that you get 19" adjustable shelves.

Those UPS units don't look like monstrosities, the front rack-mount ears will hold them in, but I would just find a good universal shelf and put them in the middle of the rack so that you have good distro to top and bottom. Stack one on the other and let the shelf hold the weight of both with the ears securing them from moving. That is how we set ours up at least.

Amazon or eBay are your best friends when it comes to finding that hardware on the cheap. A lot of people will buy racks and not need the extra rails or shelves that come with them as they have already purchased or doubled up when they ordered the equipment, not realizing that some may have been provided and you can snag those next to nothing.

Another heads up, since that enclosure uses square holes, there are some really nice locking rails that will snap into the square holes and not require all the screws/hardware to hold them in. Dell uses them on their newer server rails and they are kick-ass for maintenance if you ever have to remove them. No more spending time taking out screws and putting them back in, just quick release and move it. When you work in an environment like I do, that is a godsend. smile.gif
post #7 of 17
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Would this be an example of locking rails that snap into square holes?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101354
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post #8 of 17
That's correct. Tool-less design is typically a quick release. Those are rated for 2-3U mounts, they make beefier ones that will support 4U+ as well. All of the new servers we use are 2U, and they use Dell Speed rail systems, but they are pretty similar to that system you linked as far as I can tell.
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Thanks for the help everyone, and in case anyone is curious I went and snatched up some of these (see link below) off of newegg at 40$ a piece, I'll post back later to let everyone know how they worked out for me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101354R
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post #10 of 17
I don't know if any of this stuff is a good deal, but I was looking at them a while back.

http://www.starcase.com/rack_rail_online_store.htm
 
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