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GTX 780 vs 760 Ti SLI is a tough one. I'm considering one of them for my 120Hz setup. Both would be around 600$ most likely. 780 will oc to Titan levels but 760 Ti SLI could be faster than 690 and Titan when oc'd to the max at 1080p. I'd imagine 780 would be more "future proof" with 3GB RAM and 384-bit bus.

780 interests me because it doesn't rely on SLI profiles but nowadays Nvidia seems to update their profiles pretty often so it's not massive problem.

I'm having some driver problems with my 7950 and this card isn't that good for overclocking so I don't think I will have CF setup.
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670 SLI does great at 1600p and i'm sure 760ti (if it matches the 670) will also be just fine. It should also be mentioned that with nvidia cards, you can't do surround with only 2 monitors, you can only use monitor spanning in 3d applications with 3 monitors. So with that being the case -- the primary display will be for gaming and the secondary display will be an accessory display. What you cannot do, as mentioned, is span the 3d game across two monitors in a surround resolution.

But, with the original question: 760ti SLI will kill it at 1600p, assuming that they match the 670 in performance.

Eh...

You can bring two 680's and 7970s to their knees on a single 1400P display.....

So to say that 670 in Sli has 'great performance' is a bit of a stretch.
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If a 760 Ti is just a (670), then an OC'd 760ti should be faster than a 770, and 2x760ti's would give you GREAT performance. Up there with a Titan.

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Why bring OC into this? You can just OC the 770 and thus it being faster than a 760 Ti......OC doesn't mean that the 760 Ti is more powerful than a 770, as the 770 can OC....
    
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Eh...

You can bring two 680's and 7970s to their knees on a single 1400P display.....

So to say that 670 in Sli has 'great performance' is a bit of a stretch..

Just FYI, as anecdotal evidence - I play 1600p with my MSI lightning 680s in SLI and there is not a single game. Not a single game that isn't fluid and 100% smooth. Now with the 670 being roughly 10% slower on average per card, i'm 100% certain that 670sli and 760ti sli will run 1600p just fine. You're really exaggerating here - i'm sure 760ti will be 100% fine, assuming the performance is in line with the 670. Maybe the crossfire experience is different currently , I don't know - it's been a year or so since i've used xfire. My biggest annoyance with xfire, in hindsight, was the fact that it just did not support some games that AMD for whatever reason deemed unnecessary to add xfire support to. Several examples are all of the Assassin's creed games, and AC3 - while all of these games run very well at 1600p without SLI, having SLI *actually work* allows me to add SGSSAA and other such effects to sweeten up the eye candy, and thanks to SLI I can do this without a loss of frames. I still get a steady 60 no matter what.

Anyway, long story short - 670sli or 760ti SLI should certainly do the job at 1600p.
Edited by xoleras - 5/20/13 at 1:28pm
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I was running two 7970's in xfire for 1440p gaming and I think the only game that I couldn't get 60 fps in at total max was Crysis 3. I don't quite remember what my Crysis 3 framerate range was, but I think I turned down AA to hit 60fps.
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I was running two 7970's in xfire for 1440p gaming and I think the only game that I couldn't get 60 fps in at total max was Crysis 3. I don't quite remember what my Crysis 3 framerate range was, but I think I turned down AA to hit 60fps.

Ah yes, crysis 3 is actually an outlier. No single GPU can max that out at 1600p, and while the 680 SLI spits out more frames than the Titan, it still dips below 60 if you use the *highest quality settings*. You can turn AA off, use FXAA, or lower the quality one notch for that.

I think crysis 3 is actually the only game like that. Metro last light is a steady 60 @ 1600p.
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Just FYI, as anecdotal evidence - I play 1600p with my MSI lightning 680s in SLI and there is not a single game. Not a single game that isn't fluid and 100% smooth. Now with the 670 being roughly 10% slower on average per card, i'm 100% certain that 670sli and 760ti sli will run 1600p just fine. You're really exaggerating here - i'm sure 760ti will be 100% fine, assuming the performance is in line with the 670. Maybe the crossfire experience is different currently , I don't know - it's been a year or so since i've used xfire. My biggest annoyance with xfire, in hindsight, was the fact that it just did not support some games that AMD for whatever reason deemed unnecessary to add xfire support to. Several examples are all of the Assassin's creed games, and AC3 - while all of these games run very well at 1600p without SLI, having SLI *actually work* allows me to add SGSSAA and other such effects to sweeten up the eye candy, and thanks to SLI I can do this without a loss of frames. I still get a steady 60 no matter what.

Anyway, long story short - 670sli or 760ti SLI should certainly do the job at 1600p.

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I was running two 7970's in xfire for 1440p gaming and I think the only game that I couldn't get 60 fps in at total max was Crysis 3. I don't quite remember what my Crysis 3 framerate range was, but I think I turned down AA to hit 60fps.

Define fluid and 100% smooth? We all know that frame timing takes a back seat in multi-gpu situations, even for Nvidia. So 'smooth' is absolutely subjective. I run 1440P @ 120hz, and can tell you right now there are many situations where games dropped below 60 fps even with two 7970s at 1200Mhz.. There are plenty of reviews/benchmarks out there that show single 1600P on 680 SLi being juiced for all they have and hovering around 60 fps at best, some cases dropping sub 30.

You two are also forgetting the part where he is talking about running TWO 1600P displays.....

Telling him he is going to be fine and have 'great performance' driving two 1600P displays is just rude. One? Yea, he would be able to make due, and unless he is particularly picky of his frame rates, will be fine. Two? Not going to happen.
    
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Define fluid and 100% smooth? We all know that frame timing takes a back seat in multi-gpu situations, even for Nvidia. So 'smooth' is absolutely subjective. I run 1440P @ 120hz, and can tell you right now there are many situations where games dropped below 60 fps even with two 7970s at 1200Mhz.. There are plenty of reviews/benchmarks out there that show single 1600P on 680 SLi being juiced for all they have and hovering around 60 fps at best, some cases dropping sub 30.

You two are also forgetting the part where he is talking about running TWO 1600P displays.....

Telling him he is going to be fine and have 'great performance' driving two 1600P displays is just rude. One? Yea, he would be able to make due, and unless he is particularly picky of his frame rates, will be fine. Two? Not going to happen.

As I mentioned earlier, he will be gaming on a single screen because you can't do surround with 2 displays with nvidia GPUs. AFAIK, you can do surround with 2 monitors with AMD GPUs. Additionally, maybe your crossfire experience isn't indicative of the SLI experience. Just a wild guess. I won't bore you with frametime graphs of SLI in comparison to single GPU, but in many cases it is very very close or even - it just shows that nvidia's frame pacing technology is excellent.

You can either believe me or don't, I really don't care. I game at 1600p and the only game which occassionally dips to the mid 50s is crysis 3 with Very High quality settings and SMAA. If I lower that to FXAA or AA off, it is again a fluid 60. So, i'm sure a 670 sli or 760ti SLI will game just fine at 1600p. I also don't use 120hz, so I can't speak on that topic. There isn't a 1600p monitor that has a 120hz refresh rate, so that's a bit off-topic to even discuss anyway.
Edited by xoleras - 5/20/13 at 1:57pm
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If the gtx 780 is priced at $600 or £400 I would consider one definitely.
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If the gtx 780 is priced at $600 or £400 I would consider one definitely.

You know 600 dollar is 600 pounds yea? tongue.gif
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Just FYI, as anecdotal evidence - I play 1600p with my MSI lightning 680s in SLI and there is not a single game. Not a single game that isn't fluid and 100% smooth. Now with the 670 being roughly 10% slower on average per card, i'm 100% certain that 670sli and 760ti sli will run 1600p just fine. You're really exaggerating here - i'm sure 760ti will be 100% fine, assuming the performance is in line with the 670. Maybe the crossfire experience is different currently , I don't know - it's been a year or so since i've used xfire. My biggest annoyance with xfire, in hindsight, was the fact that it just did not support some games that AMD for whatever reason deemed unnecessary to add xfire support to. Several examples are all of the Assassin's creed games, and AC3 - while all of these games run very well at 1600p without SLI, having SLI *actually work* allows me to add SGSSAA and other such effects to sweeten up the eye candy, and thanks to SLI I can do this without a loss of frames. I still get a steady 60 no matter what.

Anyway, long story short - 670sli or 760ti SLI should certainly do the job at 1600p.

What monitor do you have? the Dell U3011? or is it one of those cheap Korean IPS one?
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