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That's all you got? A 1.000$+ laptop that should have premium materials? How about their entire SGS line? Or every tablet past the original Galaxy Tab rolleyes.gif We can go on and on and on. Sammy is in love with plastic and I'm quite annoyed with it. Which is why I don't have many Sammy products redface.gif

Aluminum is not a "premium material". From a materials standpoint, it's easy to source and procure, easy to machine, and durable "enough". Modern polymers using good blends are much better to house electronics in. I really wish people could get over the compulsive correlation of "feel" with quality...
    
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Aluminum is not a "premium material". From a materials standpoint, it's easy to source and procure, easy to machine, and durable "enough".

Samsung Series 9 is not just Aluminum. Later versions use a Magnesium alloy.
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Modern polymers using good blends are much better to house electronics in.

It's not about being better. it's about Aesthetics and feel as well as quality. By your logic Aluminum cases shouldn't exist. There's no point.
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I really wish people could get over the compulsive correlation of "feel" with quality...

Right, because feel has nothing to do with quality.
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Aluminum is not a "premium material". From a materials standpoint, it's easy to source and procure, easy to machine, and durable "enough". Modern polymers using good blends are much better to house electronics in. I really wish people could get over the compulsive correlation of "feel" with quality...

Lol. Plastics (you call them polymers to promote them, what, do you work for a plastic producer?) offer no protection from electromagnetic interference. They scratch and show it much more easily than any metal. Plastics crack and fall apart easily, aluminum dents and stays together.

Are you even serious trying to promote plastic like that?
    
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It's not about being better. it's about Aesthetics and feel as well as quality.

By your own admission you acknowledge aesthetics as separate from component quality, which is exactly the same point I was making. Yes, from a marketing perspective aluminum and magnesium are both great. They look great and they feel great, which is a big deal for the average consumer. I'm opining the "fit and finish" crowd altogether; aesthetics be damned, I'm spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on a machine and I want good craftsmanship all the way around, not just on the guts.

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Lol. Plastics (you call them polymers to promote them, what, do you work for a plastic producer?) offer no protection from electromagnetic interference. They scratch and show it much more easily than any metal. Plastics crack and fall apart easily, aluminum dents and stays together.

Are you even serious trying to promote plastic like that?

Spoken like someone with absolutely no knowledge of plastics (I'll use that word since polymer seems to upset you) and the areas/industries they're used in. Good blends are far more impact resistant than aluminum of the same weight (though they will be thicker). They'll also technically absorb more vibration, but I don't know of any studies specifically addressing what wavelengths a denser blend will soak in vs aluminum. Aluminum is no more scratch resistant than modern plastics and both show equally well.

The stuff a Galaxy phone is made of is not good plastic. The stuff used in the defense and construction industries, on the other hand, is pretty cool stuff. A lot of modern truck bed liners are pretty damn thin and resist damage better than the metal skin over the truck body itself.

And no, I don't work in the industry or for a producer; my experience with polymers plastics is their role in keeping things in place on a rifle, in magazines, and on a gun belt. But hey, I'm always down for being educated. Would you mind showing me/us the mechanical properties that lead you to your conclusions?
    
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Why are there high res screens in everything besides my monitor now a days? 4" phones have 1080p displays, yet my 23" is stuck on the same. When will we get cheap 4K monitors?

I was thinking something like this while browsing this thread.

Nothing like having laptops with smaller screens and a bigger resolution than my 19" monitor rolleyes.gif
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What is going to power these cheap 4k monitors ?
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For the love of Jebus Samsung, can you make a 4k, >59Hz monitor before doing a high res notebook? Though, it might be best to wait for input standards to be done before that.

Got to see this in person to appreciate it.

display port already has the needed bandwidth, we just have to get everyone to drop the exspensive hdmi stand in favor of the open display port standard, its better for every, but no hdcp so I think content will cry a ton over itport
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What is going to power these cheap 4k monitors ?

high efficiency power supplys and backlights hopefully.I would imagaine AMD apu's, will be the only cpu's on the market with the grunt to drive them sucessfully however.
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CONTENT ON THE MONITOR IS SCALLED FROM 1600x900 -> DOUBLE THE SIZE EACH DIRECTION = 4x THE PIXELS (AREA doh)
IT IS NOT A 1800p MONITOR, IT IS A 900p MONITOR WITH FSAA ON HARDWARE LEVEL, JUST LIKE THE rMBP IS A 900p. (only the rMBP scales a 16:10 900p interface, thus different res than the 16:9 Sammy).

Oh, and "plastics" and composite materials are superior to metals in countless ways.
Ofc people in aerospace, high tech military, R/C modelling and super-car manufacturing are idiots pushing plastics - it is all about cutting costs, while "aluminum" is a premium material.
Get a grip - metal looks fancy and different, but aluminum has crappy mechanical properties and highly unwanted thermal properties for a device that runs hot and interfaces directly with your skin.
Plus lots and lots of MBPs warp under mechanical and thermal stresses...
Magnesium and Titanium are "premium" metals, true, but aluminum is perhaps the crappiest metal of em all...it is chosen cause it is lightweight and it doesn't rust easily + it is cheap to buy and work with. Not cause it is mechanically superior to ANY other metal.
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high efficiency power supplys and backlights hopefully.I would imagaine AMD apu's, will be the only cpu's on the market with the grunt to drive them sucessfully however.

lol wat.
    
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