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Bitter much? He comes back to Nvidia but not before giving a backstab@AMD. biggrin.gif

I smell an aggressive AMD marketing campaign to come.

And I'm pretty sure it'll be of the calibre of this one:

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/need_natural_gpu_performance_enhancement_try_amds_verdetrol
   
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post #162 of 169
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LOL he went back lachen.gifwhat a troll he is

AMD does not need new marketing brains, they've already got everything they need and that is Jim Keller "The Magic" and John Gustafson and Raja Koduri. wink.gif

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/08/01/apples-cpu-architect-jim-keller-moves-back-to-amd/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6907/the-king-is-back-raja-koduri-leaves-apple-returns-to-amd


http://www.anandtech.com/show/6202/amd-hires-exintel-labs-architect-john-gustafson-as-chief-graphics-product-architecture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gustafson_%28scientist%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustafson%27s_Law
Edited by Asterox - 6/7/13 at 5:36am
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Exactly... tongue.gif I couldn't care less about SSDs if all they did was boost startup boost .. NO. Everything's just a lightyear faster tongue.gif

I didn't understand. Reading your previous posts and this, it just doesn't make sense to me.
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AMD does not need new marketing brains,

Although I would also like to believe this, AMD needs new marketing brains.

Their current marketing is entirely focusing the teenage gamer, and they don't market a slight bit (in the mass media) their business lines or server lines.

They need both of them, either way the home user won't know AMD and stick to Intel, because it's what it has been shoved to buy.
   
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Although I would also like to believe this, AMD needs new marketing brains.

Their current marketing is entirely focusing the teenage gamer, and they don't market a slight bit (in the mass media) their business lines or server lines.

They need both of them, either way the home user won't know AMD and stick to Intel, because it's what it has been shoved to buy.
Well to be honest, marketing is only done when a company is in dire straits. I wish we could say the same thing for Intel and Nvidia but no, that's how they got to where they are today.
AMD's server market is growing very quickly and has been that way since G34 due to the relative low cost of AMD's sheer performance for servers and the price.
Sheer as in, yes, it's slower per core than Intel but it's at the same time a awful lot cheaper! tongue.gif
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Well to be honest, marketing is only done when a company is in dire straits. I wish we could say the same thing for Intel and Nvidia but no, that's how they got to where they are today.
AMD's server market is growing very quickly and has been that way since G34 due to the relative low cost of AMD's sheer performance for servers and the price.
Sheer as in, yes, it's slower per core than Intel but it's at the same time a awful lot cheaper! tongue.gif

It's also true that good products sell by themselves...

But we know how is Intel thumb.gif
   
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Although I would also like to believe this, AMD needs new marketing brains.

Their current marketing is entirely focusing the teenage gamer, and they don't market a slight bit (in the mass media) their business lines or server lines.

They need both of them, either way the home user won't know AMD and stick to Intel, because it's what it has been shoved to buy.
Well to be honest, marketing is only done when a company is in dire straits. I wish we could say the same thing for Intel and Nvidia but no, that's how they got to where they are today.
AMD's server market is growing very quickly and has been that way since G34 due to the relative low cost of AMD's sheer performance for servers and the price.
Sheer as in, yes, it's slower per core than Intel but it's at the same time a awful lot cheaper! tongue.gif

Wow that is completely untrue. Do you even watch TV?

Dell's M915s and HP's BL685c G7s have a good part to do with that recently. 4P16C (64 cores total) per double-height blade puts 512 cores in a single enclosure. That is a very big deal.

Servers do not care about per-core performance... Be it VMs, web servers, dedicated render boxes, or just N+1, the server world is multi-threaded.
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Well to be honest, marketing is only done when a company is in dire straits. I wish we could say the same thing for Intel and Nvidia but no, that's how they got to where they are today.
AMD's server market is growing very quickly and has been that way since G34 due to the relative low cost of AMD's sheer performance for servers and the price.
Sheer as in, yes, it's slower per core than Intel but it's at the same time a awful lot cheaper! tongue.gif

It's also true that good products sell by themselves...

But we know how is Intel thumb.gif

... If your intended market even knows you exist.

Which, for AMD, they don't.
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Well to be honest, marketing is only done when a company is in dire straits.

I will hope you never work in marketing then... this is not even remotely close to being true.

When a product launches, you need marketing (of which, advertising is a part of) to tell the world that it is launching.

The fact that we all know when Haswell is launching, when certain platforms is being introduced to the market, that's all a part of marketing.

Roadmaps? That's (partially) product planning and also very much marketing the product to prospective partners and buyers to ramp up sales/production to meet the timeline listed. It looks pretty for a reason... and that's not for the engineers or the buyers.

Anyway, in the end, the tech industry is incredibly small. You can't go from 5+ years at NVIDIA to a direct competitor without burning all of your bridges, many of which may be key media or partner/SI/disti/VAR/vendor contacts that don't see these changes in the same light as you. For some, these bridges are not worth any sum of money to be burned over.

-alex

Edit: If you, or anyone you know, has a favorable impression of a product from any source other than 1) your own usage experience on the product, or 2) testimonial from a trusted person you know that has purchased said product, then you are influenced by marketing. Even choosing a realtor to buy a house (personal referral) is marketing at a very, VERY basic level.
Edited by mav1178 - 6/7/13 at 2:30pm
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ohhhhhh a new marketing guy, quick run to the bandwagon guys and gals, we are moving!
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