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Blind tests done by AMD concluded that people couldn't tell a difference.

No bias in those results then huh?
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No bias in those results then huh?

Probably not.

Let's take my familty.

-Two parents
-One Brother
-One sister
-Two Grand-Fathers
-Two Grand-Mothers
-ME


I am the only one who will notice a SLIGHT difference between each laptops. Not the rest of my family.
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Probably not.

Let's take my familty.

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-ME


I am the only one who will notice a SLIGHT difference between each laptops. Not the rest of my family.

C'mon, plenty have screamed murder about FCAT because it was developed by Nvidia, but results based on an AMD sponsored survey are now legit and unbiased?

wink.gif
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When people don't know much about something they go by word of mouth or "what's popular" or "whats on TV" as their first choice. People see tons of intel ads and intel stickers on laptops when they watch TV or enter bestbuy to browse for stuff. They don't see much of AMD.
Frankly i'm surprised AMD are struggling so much when they are in the ideal business position. They usually only have a single competitor, it's not like they are a car company where they need to deal with 8 or more other car makers to sell their product or a cellphone company. It's either AMD or Intel or AMD or Nvidia they should be making tons of money and yet we already read about their poor stocks. They make great products but don't know how to sell them.

It even goes down to the basics like their website. Look at how terrible their website is in comparison to intel and Nvidia.

Their stocks almost doubled in the past 2 weeks actually, they're over $4 a share now. tongue.gif I'm kicking myself for not putting in a few hundred bucks, but I'm not about to touch it now.
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The Driver team is paid a salary... Marketing budgets don't cut into that...

Again, they have nothing to do with one another.

My comment is directed toward the big wigs that create both teams budgets. Not sure why you are still making comments about this you obviously just want to argue about something.

Because your comments here are about as naive as people who want the world's supercomputers to fold instead of work on a plane engine so they're more efficient and quieter.

Even thinking that you can just "cut marketing" and feed the money into the driver team to make anything faster or better shows no ground in reality. In fact, the only person to give an idea how that would work, hiring more people, wouldn't show results for quite some time as they need to become familiar with how AMD's current driver team works, and how the GPUs themselves work.
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No bias in those results then huh?

Probably not.

Let's take my familty.

-Two parents
-One Brother
-One sister
-Two Grand-Fathers
-Two Grand-Mothers
-ME


I am the only one who will notice a SLIGHT difference between each laptops. Not the rest of my family.

And that's just because you're OCD enough to tell. tongue.gif

Same with most of my family... I actually downgraded my mom from a Ph II 965/HD 5570 to a 3870k so it would run quieter and cooler, she couldn't tell the difference besides the fact the fan stopped being annoyingly loud (continued to use the same AMD 125w cooler, 'cause why not), even after I bumped her up to a 1080p screen.
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C'mon, plenty have screamed murder about FCAT because it was developed by Nvidia, but results based on an AMD sponsored survey are now legit and unbiased?

wink.gif

I know people who couldn't tell the difference between a Pentium and an i7. I don't think AMD could be biased enough to sway anyone. tongue.gif
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I know people who couldn't tell the difference between a Pentium and an i7. I don't think AMD could be biased enough to sway anyone. tongue.gif
I have no idea what my friend is using for a proc but he sure notices the snappiness of my rig, i think he has a i3 or i5 or something with a GT*40
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I have no idea what my friend is using for a proc but he sure notices the snappiness of my rig, i think he has a i3 or i5 or something with a GT*40

*cough* Plextor M5S *cough*

Anyway, besides SSD vs HDD, there are so many user related factors that affect startup(probably the most noticeable) performance that it's really hard to run any comparisons.
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*cough* Plextor M5S *cough*

Anyway, besides SSD vs HDD, there are so many user related factors that affect startup(probably the most noticeable) performance that it's really hard to run any comparisons.
It's not just startup tongue.gif I know i use a SSD but it was fluidness while browsing even the webs shows a clear difference
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*cough* Plextor M5S *cough*

Anyway, besides SSD vs HDD, there are so many user related factors that affect startup(probably the most noticeable) performance that it's really hard to run any comparisons.
It's not just startup tongue.gif I know i use a SSD but it was fluidness while browsing even the webs shows a clear difference

That's still the SSD talking, browsers cache everything.

They're practically magic. A cheapo 64GB MicroCenter SSD (One of those ADATA rebrands) brought my D820 (2Ghz Core Duo, 4GB DDR2 667, Intel 945, combined with a linux distro, Zorin for now) back from the "dead". It's now more responsive than the 3870k rig I have laying around that lives on a 1TB Caviar Black.
Edited by KyadCK - 5/21/13 at 10:33pm
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If there is one company in the computer world that I would like to see make a mega comeback, it is AMD wave2.gif

Lets hear it from the boys and ..... girls band.gifband.gif
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It really is mostly marketing and illegal tactics that put intel so far ahead of AMD. You can disagree with me all you want, but the enthusiast (us), make up a tiny tiny fraction of sales. I see intel commercials every week or so, I see banner ads whenever I turn off adblock, intel has its retail edge partnership deal. Ive built and worked on hundreds of PCs, I'd say 5% of those customers knew the differences between AMD and Intel, and I would be willing to bet money that 99% of people wouldnt be able to see the difference between competing AMD and intel CPUs in everyday use in a blind test.

Its a known fact Intel bullied and bribed their way into more market share. Yes they have great CPUs, yes AMD has made some pretty big mistakes lately, but manufacturers wouldnt give a **** about bulldozers flop, only a few niche manufacturers care about benchmarks and gaming performance, the rest just care about slapping the I3 I5 I7 sticker on and getting kickbacks from intel.

This thread is making me mad, and im not even an AMD fanboy I have one laptop with an AMD chip in it and everything else is intel and nvidia.
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