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I do hope this works out for them. Maybe, in the future (for my brother's build) I might get a HD8000 or HD 9000 series card instead of nVidia.
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C'mon, plenty have screamed murder about FCAT because it was developed by Nvidia, but results based on an AMD sponsored survey are now legit and unbiased?

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Except this has been proven elsewhere fully, and most people either said it's possible or shut up on the matter, only one or two people actually "screamed murder" if you can even call it that.

Most people would struggle to tell the difference between a Core 2 Duo and a Core i7 no matter the clock speed and had SSDs, etc because practically every program ran by a normal person is limited by their HDD first, their input second, then everything else third. For the price difference between a Pentium Dual Core and a Core i5, may as well get a normal user the Pentium and an SSD..That'd be the faster machine to them. Hell, my girlfriend has a Llano based laptop and an Core i5 based desktop and doesn't notice the difference between either now she has an SSD in both and she games. (Granted the laptop is at 1366x768, and her desktop is at 1080p but still)
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It's not just startup tongue.gif I know i use a SSD but it was fluidness while browsing even the webs shows a clear difference

I threw an SSD in my Core 2 Duo @ 2.66Ghz rig the other day for the hell of it, it felt just as fast as my Core i5 at 4.5Ghz or Core i3 370m at 2.4Ghz...it's much slower than both but still.
    
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I threw an SSD in my Core 2 Duo @ 2.66Ghz rig the other day for the hell of it, it felt just as fast as my Core i5 at 4.5Ghz or Core i3 370m at 2.4Ghz...it's much slower than both but still.

What if I told you I cannot tell the difference between my Phenom X6 @4GHz and my A10-5700 at stock?
   
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post #94 of 169
I've personally seen how people who only use their PC for office work, emails etc can not tell the difference between a Pentium Dual Core and an i3/i5. Replace one with the other, as long as they can open outlook and send their emails they're happy.
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I think if you put a big label saying its a i7 etc on the computer, you will know what one is what, cos them case badges are so small biggrin.gif
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AMD can assemble whatever team they want, but their niche market will get smaller and smaller. I'm not saying that NVIDIA is winning, but that Intel is catching up with every update – the new Haswell with GT3e is a great performer and may effectively eliminate the need for GPU's in portable devices. One of the markets for both AMD and NVIDIA.
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Nah, richland begs to disagree. GT3e will be coming out only on the upper tier i7 laptop procs (And BGA desktops?)
GT3 is just about HD7660D level and that is last year tech. Richland boosts GPU performance by about 15-20%
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If you want more performance on a desktop computer, then you get one of these expensive GPU cards. Right? So why would this be different for mobile devices? What I mean is that when someone is serious about gaming, then they should get one with a GT3e. Pretty simple.
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AMD can assemble whatever team they want, but their niche market will get smaller and smaller. I'm not saying that NVIDIA is winning, but that Intel is catching up with every update – the new Haswell with GT3e is a great performer and may effectively eliminate the need for GPU's in portable devices. One of the markets for both AMD and NVIDIA.

Intel will always be behind APU race in GPU compartment and their solution is too expensive and performance is always 1 or 2 generations behind, their drivers are terrible and you can't much games except mainstream ones. So no indies?! GT3/Iris/Iris Pro could catch up on Trinity or even a A8 Richland if they are lucky but Kaveri will blow out of the water since top of the line one has a 512 GCN cores thus it means it has a GPU is basically Radeon HD 7750 and with GDDR5M/DDR4 on FM2+ it will just smack it. Game over, Game over man!

Also...

AMD is kicking Intel's Clover Trail+ with Temash and from available data, Bay Trail should have double core count and single threaded performance. We will see how Quad Core Kabini competes with Quad Core Silvermont. Silvermont may win, but by the that time AMD will release a refresh or an update to Temash/Kabini, its called "Beema" and if TSMC's 20nm fab 14 is fully ready for mass production then we could see it 20nm form and Volcanic Islands GPU's and that just make legendary gap between Silvermont and "Beema" in GPU performance.

From the details, Silvermont will have GPU on par old Bobcat E350/E450. Not good at all.

[update]
@Pike

You forgot that with AMD APU's you can do Hybrid Crossfire, so you put an dedicated GPU that is compatible and crossfire it. Trinity GPU 7660G with Radeon HD 6670 in Crossfire has performance close to 7770 at best.

Richland will allow Crossfire with Radeon HD 7xxx series so put a 7730 or 7750 and crossfire it, get performance around Radeon HD 7790/7850. Can you do that with Intel's "APU"? No. Deal with it.
Edited by vampirr - 5/25/13 at 2:20am
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Yes. dual graphics is possible on laptops AND desktops with any GPU out there (Just don't do it with a 7850 and above ...)
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If you want more performance on a desktop computer, then you get one of these expensive GPU cards. Right? So why would this be different for mobile devices? What I mean is that when someone is serious about gaming, then they should get one with a GT3e. Pretty simple.
And i'm not even talking about desktop APU's GPU performance. Dude. I'm talking about laptops whom has the same GPU as the desktop for the APU
And also a commonly configured A10 laptop is i3 money (With a similar performance GPU but the AMD laptops always always have another dGPU for dual graphics and that can be turned off)
what do you expect in a i3 laptop other than GT2? No way man. (GT2 = HD4600) And GT3 is just = HD7660D keep in mind that.
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