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post #11 of 26
Well I can't see an Aquaero 5 in that list and some of the parts are not much good without it.

The cost is high and it could be done for much less but at the same time the end product is a fully integrated Air water pump and flow monitoring and control system. The cheaper ways won't give you all that. Its a high end system for a high end price.
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post #12 of 26
So that adds what, $160 to $220 depending on model? Then the quoted cost sounds more and more reasonable.
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Hi. I done a comparison. The overall( excluding installation/setup/testing/workmanship/modding) cost me USD3000 total. The profit markup at their end is roughly 11 to 12% which means the real cost of importing all the parts by myself and having them do all the labour for me with a charge if USD160 is around USD 2640. Not a small sum either.
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USD3000 will be the all-in price as in really all in from the first cable down to the last cable, every single fittings, every wire extension (they need a lot of 1metre long wire extension due to mne case size as frm what they told me), with all the installation work done for, leak-tested, all in. The only thing i have to do is attend a 1 hour tutorial lesson with them FOC on how to maintain and change the coolant which they say it pretty easy with the quick-disconnect (what is a 'quick-disconnect' by the way?)

It also include delivery of the giant case to my residential address.

Cost analysis:

A Asus GTX Titan cost USD1270 here in Singapore. I saved around USD1000.00 by risking to import (warranty risk) all parts from the US via online purchase from Amazon. I bought mine EVGA superclocked edition for USD1066.00 back then. Thats how the price in Singapore are. i can say that all the water-cooling parts they are using are imported parts either the store already imported it beforehand or they are importing it in now for me.

I managed to do a very thorough calculation for my CPU-cooling cost. I exclude the installation/setup/leak-tesing cost of USD160 in this analysis. I assume i imported all the parts (more expensive if i buy the parts from the local retailer who imported them in) by myself in from the US paying for the cheapest courier and also 7% tax, and then DIY the rig. The cost of water-cooling the CPU alone will be cheaper by USD180.00.
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post #15 of 26
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I think the issue is things are more expensive in Singapore than usual, so sourcing things locally in SG may end up being close to having a pro do it.

this, I live in Australia and stuff is a good deal more expensive here, similar prices to what you get To do a full loop for 2 GPU's and one CPU with dual D5 pumps with mostly heatkiller, bitspower and EK parts cost me about $1650, but I also used some cheaper components (like the radiator) and I left out lighting and sleeving. It cost me almost the same to get it all the parts imported from the US as it would to buy at an Australian Online store. There isn't really much of a way around it.

you've got a lot of top quality components in there so that high price sounds fairly reasonable to me considering things would be harder to get in singapore like they are here (not even a single Australian store (online or otherwise) has a bitspower silver extender!?!?? not even one!)

If you do it yourself you'll learn about the system and save $180 but if anything goes wrong it's up to you to rectify it and cover the cost
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post #16 of 26
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Hi Guys:


Just to let you guys have an idea how high prices are in Singapore.

Please watch this video. Computer, housing, food or cars. All the same:

http://stcommunities.straitstimes.com/movies/2013/05/22/hollywood-stars-shocked-singapore-car-prices
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Hi Guys:


Just to let you guys have an idea how high prices are in Singapore.

Please watch this video. Computer, housing, food or cars. All the same:

http://stcommunities.straitstimes.com/movies/2013/05/22/hollywood-stars-shocked-singapore-car-prices

Damn I cant believe the prices over there ! I thought it was bad here.
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Damn I cant believe the prices over there ! I thought it was bad here.

Yup, a simple gauge would be to divide whatever it cost to set up my watercooling rig here in Singapore by 2, and it should be around the cost of setting a similar watercooling setup in the States.
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What is the average income per year?
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I asked for possible cutting down of the watercooling cost.

The suggestions was to replace the 2 set of 4x120mm AQUACOMPUTER radiators with 2 sets of 4x120mm ALPHACOOL radiators. The Alphacool radiator will be a copper 1 and i was told it perform similarly if not 1-2 degree higher than the AquaComputer radiators.

Any advice whether should i go for the Alphacool radiators? This will shave SGD400.00 off the total cost. HOWEVER, if the performance of the ALPHACOOL radiator sucks, please state so. I wouldn't want to suffer from a bad radiator and would galdly spend that extra SGD400.00 for absolute performance. Thanks.
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