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Hey guys, I am having an issue with an external hard drive connected to my laptop.

Setup #1
-desktop PC with traditional BIOS
-3.5" internal hard drive in an enclosure and connected via eSATA (and AC powered)

Setup #2
-newer laptop with UEFI
-3.5" internal hard drive in an enclosure and connected via USB 3 (and AC powered)

Basically, on my desktop the external drive turns itself automatically on when I turn the PC on and the drive shuts it self off as well when I shutdown the PC from Windows 7 or Ubuntu 12.04. On my laptop connected via USB3 though, I have to first manually turn on the external drive (before starting the laptop) and then manually shut it off when I turn off the laptop. It does NOT turn itself on as the laptop is booting nor does the drive shut itself off when the laptop is shutdown. Any one have any idea's as to why? confused.gif
Edited by TrueTroop - 5/20/13 at 1:14pm
    
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post #2 of 4
    Absolutely!  In the first case, the HDD is connected with eSATA, which is basically a fancy SATA connector.  In that case, the HDD gets all the control messages from the motherboard.  With the laptop, however, the HDD is connected via USB.  There is a controller in your USB3 to SATA conversion box that converts I/O requests coming from the USB connection to SATA for the HDD.  This controller (or the Windows driver) doesn't support/translate the ATA command for spinning up or spinning down the drive.  Other USB to SATA converters that I'm aware of have the same problem.
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Kingston SV300S3 WesternDigital WD10EZEX Samsung HD154UI Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 
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Daewoo L947BK Gateway FPD1530 HTK-2001 Dynex DX-400WPS 
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Thread Starter 
Exactly what I was thinking and thanks for the confirmation....Now, do ANY USB3 external hard drive enclosures work like my eSATA one does (aka I picked one that doesn't) or is it impossible because those commands to spin up and spin down the disk are just not sent over USB?
    
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5 3210M Intel HD 4000 + ASUS GTX 750 Ti (eGPU) 8GB GSkill DDR3 128GB Crucial M4 SSD 
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Windows 7 + OS X 10.8 + Ubuntu 12.04 22" Samsung LED Logitech G15 v2 Gigabyte GM-8000 
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Windows 7 + OS X 10.8 + Ubuntu 12.04 22" Samsung LED Logitech G15 v2 Gigabyte GM-8000 
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    I don't know the answer to that.  Perhaps someone else does.  The couple of converters I've used have the same problem.
My desktop PC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Gigabyte P67A-D3-B3 NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS  1x Corsair 8 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Kingston SV300S3 WesternDigital WD10EZEX Samsung HD154UI Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Daewoo L947BK Gateway FPD1530 HTK-2001 Dynex DX-400WPS 
MouseAudio
Kensington K72400 Realtek ALC889 
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My desktop PC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Gigabyte P67A-D3-B3 NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS  1x Corsair 8 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Kingston SV300S3 WesternDigital WD10EZEX Samsung HD154UI Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Daewoo L947BK Gateway FPD1530 HTK-2001 Dynex DX-400WPS 
MouseAudio
Kensington K72400 Realtek ALC889 
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