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Hopefully there will be a 2550k version of haswel, no gpu inside would help alot in temperature and oc.
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Hopefully there will be a 2550k version of haswel, no gpu inside would help alot in temperature and oc.

It's my understanding that the 2550k had the igpu it was just disabled somehow
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Encoding/streaming, virtualization, heavy multitasking, geochemical modeling, and running phylogenetic comparisons.
I use 192 cores 5 chips for that.
post #104 of 155
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Hopefully there will be a 2550k version of haswel, no gpu inside would help alot in temperature and oc.

The iGPU still existed, it was just permanently disabled (probably lasered off). I believe there were only two versions of IB and SB CPUs: One with 2-cores + iGPU, and one with 4 cores with iGPU. Binning then selected which ones went to which products.
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Hopefully there will be a 2550k version of haswel, no gpu inside would help alot in temperature and oc.

All Haswells would have GPU, the difference is only in type, GT2, or GT3. For Intel it's important because they want to remove NVidia and AMD from low end GPU segment.
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All Haswells would have GPU, the difference is only in type, GT2, or GT3. For Intel it's important because they want to remove NVidia and AMD from low end GPU segment.
AMD is not going to bother with a low-end segment anymore, just the APUs. GT3 is on par with HD7660D but GT3 is only available with BGA chips (Laptops)
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post #107 of 155
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They posted a slide from Intel, shown during the Intel Developer Forum, that clearly says they have on-chip voltage regulation.  Call it what you want, but there is voltage regulation being done on chip, and that is likely going to contribute to chip heating.
But of course. The VR technology is moved from the motherboard to the processor die, but I was trying to explain that it is an array of mini VR's (power cells) instead of one VR.
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A better discussion would be - how is the on-chip voltage regulation going to affect overclocking.  Since you will be feeding the chip a single voltage which will be split up on-chip, is it best to provide the lowest input voltage possible?  Or the highest?  Or some factor of the Vcore you want.  Which method os going to generate the least heat on-chip, and will it make any difference to Vcore required or stability.  Those are the kinds of questions I'm interested in, with the new change to on-chip voltage regulation.
I understand that. But didn't Intel said to have improved the overclockability? That has to be true or they will lose (some of) their credibility. Right?

For me the real question is; How much of this improvement is related to the new and improved VR Technology? For the rest... no idea. We'll have to wait for the NDA to end.
post #108 of 155
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but I was trying to explain that it is an array of mini VR's (power cells) instead of one VR.
So when they would add an array on chip on MB as a filtering stage and use 32nm to have better cooling area, they would do better than Haswell right? The same ripple, but heat will not pollute CPU.

Well my PSU has ripple 47.4 mV at 12 V line full load, 13.8 mV on 3.3 V line. 40 mV on 12 V line average. That's not that large difference.
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I understand that. But didn't Intel said to have improved the overclockability?
Where did they say that?
post #109 of 155
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Where did they say that?

here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/15iaet/iama_cpu_architect_and_designer_at_intel_ama/

This post:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/15iaet/iama_cpu_architect_and_designer_at_intel_ama/c7moxxb#c7moxxb
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If you like to overclock, Haswell is worth it (can't tell you why but read the Haswell Anandtech preview very carefully for buried treasure). On-die graphics is improving quite a bit as well. If you're into energy efficiency or even more graphics, Broadwell. I think the tech community will be very pleasantly surprised with Broadwell. But I'm biased, so we'll just going to have to prove it the hard way.

Edited by gockelmax - 5/22/13 at 7:46am
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post #110 of 155
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But didn't Intel said to have improved the overclockability? That has to be true or they will lose (some of) their credibility. Right?.

iirc... They said it would be "an overclockers dream." (To lazy to dig it up)

Sounds like typical media hyperbole. This does not mean it improved the amount of OC. It could easily mean it just gave different options to achieve a similar cap.
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