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And this is why we still use vacuum tubes.

...right?

what i'm saying is that more performance per core is what amd should be focusing on for now, not moar cores just because it's the "future"
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keep on reading these "soon" "future" commments. by the time games will be that heavy threaded, you won't be using today's cpu anyway.
bulldozer was a "future" cpu, what happened to it? it failed, miserably.

consumers buy a PC to use right now, not for the future.

i dont care what people said before. but this year the next gen consoles will come out with games optimized for more then 4 cores. and even today you see people with say an i7 950 which came out 4 years ago just doing fine. so you can asume these first 8 cores doing just fine for the first few years
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2 Things.

1st ITS AN ES, wait for the retail reviews.

2nd The VRMs are NOT on the CPU, they are still on the motherboard, it is the Voltage Controller that is now on-die.
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2nd The VRMs are NOT on the CPU, they are still on the motherboard, it is the Voltage Controller that is now on-die.

Then why does Intel call it the Integrated Voltage Regulator (iVR)?

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Then why does Intel call it the Integrated Voltage Regulator (iVR)?

did you even read his post? he just said that the "Integrated Voltage Regulator" is on the CPU but the VRMs on the mainboard
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Then why does Intel call it the Integrated Voltage Regulator (iVR)?

Because thats what it's called. I just said Voltage controller.
Edited by driftingforlife - 5/21/13 at 12:47am
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did you even read his post? he just said that the "Integrated Voltage Regulator" is on the CPU but the VRMs on the mainboard


What he said was the "The VRMs are NOT on the CPU, they are still on the motherboard, it is the Voltage Controller that is now on-die" which is not accurate.  There are voltage regulation modules (VRMs) on the chip - that's what the iVR is, a voltage regulator.  Hence the name.

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Voltages are the other big change with Haswell. All Haswell SKUs will ship with an integrated voltage regulator. Instead of having multiple voltage rails driven by external voltage regulators enter the SoC, Haswell will accept two input voltages: Vccin for logic and Vddq for DRAM. Vccin should typically be somewhere in the 1.8V - 2.3V range, with a max of 3.04V. Vddq will depend on your DRAM type. The integrated voltage regulator will support all of the same adjustments than we're used to on current Ivy Bridge platforms

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6898/intel-details-haswell-overclocked-at-idf-beijing

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Ok, my misunderstanding, what I ment was the general power delivery (VRM,MOFSET). My point is that not as much heat has been added as some people are thinking and there is a way to manage it.
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What he said was the "The VRMs are NOT on the CPU, they are still on the motherboard, it is the Voltage Controller that is now on-die" which is not accurate.  There are voltage regulation modules (VRMs) on the chip - that's what the iVR is, a voltage regulator.  Hence the name.

well ok then.
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There is not that much heat been added and there is a way to manage it.

Hopefully that's the case.  The picture of the de-lidded Haswell made it look like the iVR was integrated right into the die, seems like it would be better if it was a separate module on the chip.

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