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What he said was the "The VRMs are NOT on the CPU, they are still on the motherboard, it is the Voltage Controller that is now on-die" which is not accurate.  There are voltage regulation modules (VRMs) on the chip - that's what the iVR is, a voltage regulator.  Hence the name.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6898/intel-details-haswell-overclocked-at-idf-beijing
That document is inaccurate due to NDA restrictions. Also. Intel calls it: "Integrated VR Technology" and it is an array of mini VR's (power cells). Not just one thing but a bunch of them. Helping them to get this low 2mV ripple (max).
post #92 of 155
Ok, I did not see the source but anyway:
What was the ambient? Was the case cooled?
And so on...
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They over clocked it 3.9. None of us will be using the stock cooler anyway. Most will be delidding day 1

Most will be de-lidding from day one?

I will wait for proper trusted reviews upon release before i take a knife or hammer to my new chip, For we know these speculations could amount to nothing.
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Most will be de-lidding from day one?

I will wait for proper trusted reviews upon release before i take a knife or hammer to my new chip, For we know these speculations could amount to nothing.

No hammer needed chew wink.gif
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No hammer needed chew wink.gif
But might be handy if the delidding fails thumb.gif
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post #96 of 155
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Ok, I did not see the source but anyway:
What was the ambient? Was the case cooled?
And so on...
Essentially this. I'd take this particular review with a grain of salt until we see some more results after the official launch. Especially valid for the vast majority that won't be using other methods of cooling compared to the stock HSF. Still excited. smile.gif
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You'll never know if they are lying ... CHINESE CONSPIRACY lol lachen.gif
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post #98 of 155
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Originally posted by Pike

 

That document is inaccurate due to NDA restrictions. Also. Intel calls it: "Integrated VR Technology" and it is an array of mini VR's (power cells). Not just one thing but a bunch of them. Helping them to get this low 2mV ripple (max).

They posted a slide from Intel, shown during the Intel Developer Forum, that clearly says they have on-chip voltage regulation.  Call it what you want, but there is voltage regulation being done on chip, and that is likely going to contribute to chip heating.

 

A better discussion would be - how is the on-chip voltage regulation going to affect overclocking.  Since you will be feeding the chip a single voltage which will be split up on-chip, is it best to provide the lowest input voltage possible?  Or the highest?  Or some factor of the Vcore you want.  Which method os going to generate the least heat on-chip, and will it make any difference to Vcore required or stability.  Those are the kinds of questions I'm interested in, with the new change to on-chip voltage regulation.

post #99 of 155
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They posted a slide from Intel, shown during the Intel Developer Forum, that clearly says they have on-chip voltage regulation.  Call it what you want, but there is voltage regulation being done on chip, and that is likely going to contribute to chip heating.

A better discussion would be - how is the on-chip voltage regulation going to affect overclocking.  Since you will be feeding the chip a single voltage which will be split up on-chip, is it best to provide the lowest input voltage possible?  Or the highest?  Or some factor of the Vcore you want.  Which method os going to generate the least heat on-chip, and will it make any difference to Vcore required or stability.  Those are the kinds of questions I'm interested in, with the new change to on-chip voltage regulation.
Another discussion would be how this might effect laptops. If the mobile chips are hot and draw more power than IB then what will that do to performance and battery life? I do believe that they were saying that this chip was really made to improve laptops? Everyone here is IMO considering their personal usage as an OCer and using better coolers.
post #100 of 155
Because it's internal Intel can eliminate off board socket losses and control voltage drop more tightly but it doesn't need a onboard VRM for laptops though, the power board already drops it down to 1.8-2.5V i think
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