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I've been needing to get one of those. I'm assuming there isn't one in a local store like Home Depot?

Something close or exactly what I posted above? Probably not, not sure, but I am sure any type of probe thermometer would work.
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I might just RMA it. I'm taking a risk of getting a voltage hungry chip/bad overclocker but at least I won't have this problem to worry about.
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I might just RMA it. I'm taking a risk of getting a voltage hungry chip/bad overclocker but at least I won't have this problem to worry about.

I'm sorry to say this but I think it's something you're overlooking and not the chip. Its not going to run good then instantly run hot. I'm thinking human error
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As far as I can see from the screenshot you have provided, your idle temps seem to be fine hovering between 30-35c which is understandable considering your ambient temps are around 25/26c. If you could possible clear the CMOS and run everything on stock (set the RAM to its desired stock settings) and post screenshots of idle and and load that would be great.
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I see temps get up to 90C so I quickly turn off and proceed to reapply thermal paste

One other thing, how are you applying the thermal paste? what method? spreading the TIM or rice grain etc?

As someone already mentioned it could just be a sensor problem.
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I'm sorry to say this but I think it's something you're overlooking and not the chip. Its not going to run good then instantly run hot. I'm thinking human error
I did absolutely nothing that day when this started happened. Opened up Real Temp and they shot up to 50C instantly. Did a P95 test and went close to 100C.

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As far as I can see from the screenshot you have provided, your idle temps seem to be fine hovering between 30-35c which is understandable considering your ambient temps are around 25/26c. If you could possible clear the CMOS and run everything on stock (set the RAM to its desired stock settings) and post screenshots of idle and and load that would be great.
One other thing, how are you applying the thermal paste? what method? spreading the TIM or rice grain etc?

As someone already mentioned it could just be a sensor problem.
I am starting to think it is because I have no idea what else could have happened. I will post some more results, maybe even a video of what happens to my temps. I also have been using the dot method with NT-H1 this whole time.
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You can undervolt *and* OC Ivy at the same time. With a stock cooler and leaving bios voltage settings on "AUTO" what you are describing is the norm.

Edit- I see you have aftermarket cooling, still using a strong LLC (setting#1 for extreme4) and choosing to let your board regulate your voltage I can see Ivy acting this way anyhow. Before I learned to run my Ivy at a (rather large) negative offset I would jump over 80c on a nonexistent oc on an IBT run with ease, now I can pass on air at 4.0 and barely go over 60c on a hot day.

Especially with that board, thats almost identical to my rig. What BIOS version are you useing, extreme4 had LLC issues that were adressed in one of the later patches because it was basically reverse labeled in the extreme OC settings. There's an OC'er in here held in high regard by name of Sin that does an extensive revue on youtube explaining this issue and about how extreme4 likes to show about .05 less voltage than its actually running at as well.

Edit-#2 Can no longer find the video possibly because of a fix or legal issues.
Edited by Neckbeard13 - 5/21/13 at 7:17pm
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You can undervolt *and* OC Ivy at the same time. With a stock cooler and leaving bios voltage settings on "AUTO" what you are describing is the norm.

Edit- I see you have aftermarket cooling, still using a strong LLC (setting#1 for extreme4) and choosing to let your board regulate your voltage I can see Ivy acting this way anyhow. Before I learned to run my Ivy at a (rather large) negative offset I would jump over 80c on a nonexistent oc on an IBT run with ease, now I can pass on air at 4.0 and barely go over 60c on a hot day.

Especially with that board, thats almost identical to my rig. What BIOS version are you useing, extreme4 had LLC issues that were adressed in one of the later patches because it was basically reverse labeled in the extreme OC settings. There's an OC'er in here held in high regard by name of Sin that does an extensive revue on youtube explaining this issue and about how extreme4 likes to show about .05 less voltage than its actually running at as well.
Running 2.80 ATM. Not using any LLC because I'm at stock right now. And the thing is I've gone from Extreme4 to UD5H back to the Extreme4 and still got the same thing. I am pretty sure the boards have nothing to do with it.

By the way, I decided to install the stock heats ink just for the fun of it. Doing absolutely nothing, my temps were at 60-65C idle.
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]Those were the temps I was running w/ stock cooler and no OC. When I played a cpu intensive MMO I would get up into the 90c range @ stock settings and stock cooler I did the very same thing but in reverse, I took back my UD5H as well as the i3570k and exchanged both for a new I3570k and the extreme4 because of the limited amount of features on the UD5H's BIOS. Then was getting for the most part the same on the extreme4 until I decided to get as low of voltage as I could with my chosen clock speed.

Things to try, make sure the internal graphix in the i3570k are set to off or disabled in bios as well as hardware manager. Turn off PLL internal overvoltage unless clocking very high, enable intel speedstep tech, enable Cstate1 and turn off the other C3 and c6? states in BIOS.

I run 4.0 daily because Im sure anything above that is probably waisted on my gtx550ti

core voltage set to -125
Turbo voltage set to +.04
LLC set to 4

Just passed IBT w/o breaking 62c on hottest core with all fans set as low as possible for low noise. screeny incoming

Thing about Ivy is the lid is bound on with glue and the actual chip has thermal paste of questionable quality between the lid and chip unlike the use of proper solder in the sandy bridges. I have heard alot of reports that though the stock cooler sucks, as it doesnt even cover the entire lid of the chip, no matter how big you go on an air cooler doesnt have that much of an effect on Ivy just because its insulated so (well/poorly) that it doesnt like to dissapate heat. OC'ing Ivy is more a game of voltage than cooling when it comes to air.



CPU-z is telling me .076v at idle and around 0.98 - 1.000v under load in IBT if I drop under 0.98 volts in IBT I get unstable notice or bluescreen WHEY errors.

Also its worth noting that while in IBT depending on ambient temps IBT produces around 61c but I have yet to see a reading of over 56c while playing any game.

Those chips are all different in terms of what voltages they require to do what, thats what I'm using. What do you have your voltages set to in terms of auto, set, or offset, and how much turbo voltage do you have alloted?

And lastly it should be noted that I am pretty much a well read yet novice overclocker if you can really even call 4.0 an OC. The chip pretty much comes with a factory OC of 3.8 advertized as 3.4 and 4.0 is a VERY insignificant OC. Pretty much all I have done here is temprature control. @ 4.5 where you had yours 70c does NOT seem that out of line during IBT as the chip isnt really in any danger untill you begin to approach high 80's (again opinion on this will vary) So start somewhere comfortable and work your way where your going, dont for instance just copy/paste what Im using because if it fails you you will have no idea where you went wrong.



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post #19 of 21
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Well I tried doing everything again but with no luck. What would you guys do? Just return it or keep it?
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Return that crappy CPU and get another one, its almost 100% you'll do 4.5 Ghz with it. Stop wasting your time.

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