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My previous desktop died on me and I would like build a decent gaming computer (cause its cheaper to build than buy) and would like some advice on whether the parts I choose are fine. My primary use would be gaming (average gamer), and perhaps some light video editing.

I am a noob with all these computer parts but after some research, have decided to get something like (open to suggestions):

CPU: i5-3470
Mobo: H77/Z77 chipset
GPU: GTX 650 Ti (minimum)
500 GB HDD, 64/128GB SSD
20-22" Monitor
PSU: not sure how much power supply I need but perhaps 550-625w (80+ Bronze) is enough?
Case: Not good with cases :/

I'm not too sure the difference for each part for individual retailers (e.g. AsRock, Gigabyte) but I see there are different variations for the same part so advice on which brand I should get will be a great help. Also those parts I named are just a rough idea so opinions on what I should switch them with are also welcome! (hopefully not too expensive compared to what I have picked as I am on a budget)

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Originally Posted by iamatechnoob View Post

My previous desktop died on me and I would like build a decent gaming computer (cause its cheaper to build than buy) and would like some advice on whether the parts I choose are fine. My primary use would be gaming (average gamer), and perhaps some light video editing.

I am a noob with all these computer parts but after some research, have decided to get something like (open to suggestions):

CPU: i5-3470
Mobo: H77/Z77 chipset
GPU: GTX 650 Ti (minimum)
500 GB HDD, 64/128GB SSD
20-22" Monitor
PSU: not sure how much power supply I need but perhaps 550-625w (80+ Bronze) is enough?
Case: Not good with cases :/

I'm not too sure the difference for each part for individual retailers (e.g. AsRock, Gigabyte) but I see there are different variations for the same part so advice on which brand I should get will be a great help. Also those parts I named are just a rough idea so opinions on what I should switch them with are also welcome! (hopefully not too expensive compared to what I have picked as I am on a budget)

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Would you ever be interested in overclocking? If so, then one of the K series CPUs (like the 3570K) would be needed along with a good motherboard that has the Z77 chipset.

 

Regarding the video card: when you say "minimum", what's your maximum? Even going with a GTX 680 or a 7970 wouldn't require anything more than a good quality-made 450W PSU.

 

I'm not sure about the rest.


Edited by TwoCables - 5/20/13 at 9:40pm
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post #3 of 14
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Thanks for the quick response!

No I would not be overclocking anything. I don't think I will go above GTX 660 for budget reasons unless I have spare cash.

Forgot to add that I will be getting 2x4gb 1333mhz ram (1600mhz if I have leftover cash from my budget)
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Thanks for the quick response!

No I would not be overclocking anything. I don't think I will go above GTX 660 for budget reasons unless I have spare cash.

Forgot to add that I will be getting 2x4gb 1333mhz ram (1600mhz if I have leftover cash from my budget)

 

In that case, all that you need is a good quality-made 400W PSU and that's it.

 

Can you order from Newegg.com?

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post #5 of 14
A budget amount would help us a lot.

What are you willing to spend ?
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In that case, all that you need is a good quality-made 400W PSU and that's it.

Can you order from Newegg.com?

Hmm 400w is enough? Maybe I'll get 500 in case I'm adding a couple of fans. I don't see 400w around, mostly 500w for sale. And sadly I can't order from newegg, probably visit a local IT mall to get my parts.
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A budget amount would help us a lot.

What are you willing to spend ?

I didn't give a budget cause I live out of the states. Am currently in Singapore, and I think the price might differ. My budget is at SGD1000 if it helps! I guess anything not much more expensive ($5-10) than what I listed should be fine !
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Hmm 400w is enough? Maybe I'll get 500 in case I'm adding a couple of fans. I don't see 400w around, mostly 500w for sale. And sadly I can't order from newegg, probably visit a local IT mall to get my parts.
I didn't give a budget cause I live out of the states. Am currently in Singapore, and I think the price might differ. My budget is at SGD1000 if it helps! I guess anything not much more expensive ($5-10) than what I listed should be fine !

 

Fans don't pull enough power to make a difference here.

 

A good quality-made 400W PSU is enough even if you went with a GTX 680:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_680_sli_review,4.html

 

With one GTX 680 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 307W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add up to 77W for the i5-3470 under full load. So, with the GTX 680 and the i5-3470 under full load at the same time (which is unrealistic), the PSU would then be pulling 384W from the wall outlet. This means that if the PSU is 90% efficient while pulling 384W from the wall outlet, then the computer is pulling 345W from the PSU. The gaming power draw will be closer to about 275 to 325W. If the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 384W from the wall outlet, then the computer is pulling 326W from the PSU. This means that the gaming power draw will be closer to about 225-300W. A good quality-made 400W PSU can easily deliver 400W 24/7, so a PSU like that would be the perfect fit - even with a few extra fans because fans don't pull much power at all.

 

So since you're going to go with the GTX 650 Ti or the GTX 660 (Ti?), your power consumption will be much lower and so therefore a good quality-made 400W PSU would be quite overkill.

 

For getting help choosing a good PSU, I recommend using this:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies

 

When you find out which ones you can get where you live, you can ask here which one(s) would be the best to purchase.

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post #8 of 14
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Fans don't pull enough power to make a difference here.

A good quality-made 400W PSU is enough even if you went with a GTX 680:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_680_sli_review,4.html

With one GTX 680 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 307W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add up to 77W for the i5-3470 under full load. So, with the GTX 680 and the i5-3470 under full load at the same time (which is unrealistic), the PSU would then be pulling 384W from the wall outlet. This means that if the PSU is 90% efficient while pulling 384W from the wall outlet, then the computer is pulling 345W from the PSU. The gaming power draw will be closer to about 275 to 325W. If the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 384W from the wall outlet, then the computer is pulling 326W from the PSU. This means that the gaming power draw will be closer to about 225-300W. A good quality-made 400W PSU can easily deliver 400W 24/7, so a PSU like that would be the perfect fit - even with a few extra fans because fans don't pull much power at all.

So since you're going to go with the GTX 650 Ti or the GTX 660 (Ti?), your power consumption will be much lower and so therefore a good quality-made 400W PSU would be quite overkill.

For getting help choosing a good PSU, I recommend using this:

http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies

When you find out which ones you can get where you live, you can ask here which one(s) would be the best to purchase.
Great informative reply! Thanks for the links.

Hmm, I'm not very good with all these but from what I've read, shouldn't a 90% efficient psu draw 427w to supply a need for 384w? I apologise if I'm mistaken. Which are some of the better brands for PSU? I can get any brand actually, we have everything here that you have in the States (:
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Great informative reply! Thanks for the links.

Hmm, I'm not very good with all these but from what I've read, shouldn't a 90% efficient psu draw 427w to supply a need for 384w? I apologise if I'm mistaken. Which are some of the better brands for PSU? I can get any brand actually, we have everything here that you have in the States (:

You dont look at the brands you look at the models the brands have

The Reason for this almost every brand does not make their own PSU´s they buy from OEM´s and some brands can have 4-6 OEM´s they buy from
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If you're not in US...Superflower is a good maker biggrin.gif
Make sure most of the watts are on a single 12v rail.
I'd recommend 500-550 at least.
 
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