Overclock.net › Forums › General Hardware › General Processor Discussions › Q6600 vs Phenom II 965
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Q6600 vs Phenom II 965 - Page 3

post #21 of 32
PII should clock higher with better cooling and solid VRM board. AM3 boards are also easier to find, not to mention AM3+
Yesz
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-3570K G1 Sniper M3 RX 480 16gb CL9 1600 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Seagate 3TB Crucial 500GB SSD 1TB WD Black Noctua NH-D14 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Yamakasi Catleap 27" (2560x1440) dasKeyboard Silent (Browns) XFX 550w Silverstone PS07B 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Nixeus Revel SteelSeries Qck+ SR850/Klipsch 2.1 
  hide details  
Reply
Yesz
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-3570K G1 Sniper M3 RX 480 16gb CL9 1600 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Seagate 3TB Crucial 500GB SSD 1TB WD Black Noctua NH-D14 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Yamakasi Catleap 27" (2560x1440) dasKeyboard Silent (Browns) XFX 550w Silverstone PS07B 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Nixeus Revel SteelSeries Qck+ SR850/Klipsch 2.1 
  hide details  
Reply
post #22 of 32


Phenom II x4 965 does so much better than Q6600
because Kentsfield isn't a true quad core. Two
Dual-Core on same silicon that communicate
via FSB.


AK 1045
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 95W TDP GABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+ AMD 790X+SB750 1... MSI Radeon 5850 PowerColor Radeon 5850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial Ballistix Tracer (D9GMH) PC2-6400 800MH... OCZ Agility 3 120GB RAID-0 Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 200GB Scythe Mugen 2 with dual Scythe SFF21F Fans (Pu... 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) 1920x1200 Corsair 750TX 750W  CM HAF932 Logitech G5 
AudioAudio
ASUS XONAR DG with Heaphone amp > Sennheiser HD... 2x100 watt Class D amp 2x100 watt > Miller & Kr... 
  hide details  
Reply
AK 1045
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 95W TDP GABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+ AMD 790X+SB750 1... MSI Radeon 5850 PowerColor Radeon 5850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial Ballistix Tracer (D9GMH) PC2-6400 800MH... OCZ Agility 3 120GB RAID-0 Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 200GB Scythe Mugen 2 with dual Scythe SFF21F Fans (Pu... 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) 1920x1200 Corsair 750TX 750W  CM HAF932 Logitech G5 
AudioAudio
ASUS XONAR DG with Heaphone amp > Sennheiser HD... 2x100 watt Class D amp 2x100 watt > Miller & Kr... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23 of 32
Yabutt, op said nothing about OCing the 965, and that is where the Q6600 gets up and makes a mockery of that cpu - when comparing an OC Q6600 to a stock 965, the choice is clear. Not to mention the limited instances where the AMD would be worse even if they were both stock, which only really happens with a few games.
Gran Turing(0)
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA GTX Titan SC 16GB G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Blue 1TB WD Blue 640GB LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 3x Samsung Syncmaster S23A300B 1920x1080 LED IBM Model M Zalman ZM850-HP 
CaseMouse
Antec Twelve Hundred V1 Logitech G5 
  hide details  
Reply
Gran Turing(0)
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA GTX Titan SC 16GB G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Blue 1TB WD Blue 640GB LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 3x Samsung Syncmaster S23A300B 1920x1080 LED IBM Model M Zalman ZM850-HP 
CaseMouse
Antec Twelve Hundred V1 Logitech G5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #24 of 32
I would imagine the Q6600 would generally be a more responsive system for daily computing tasks but for general gaming I would take the Phenom II. The CPU's would be pretty evenly matched for most tasks, but the 7850 1gb is superior to a 5870. The 30gb SSD is useless for anything other than OS or possibly 1-2 games if it was used as storage drive. Even now very few games take advantage of >4gb, so 6gb vs 4gb isnt much of an issue unless your playing alot of BF3 or similar.
Spit in God's Eye
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5960x @ 4.26 ghz core / 3.53 ghz uncore - 1.... AsRock X99 Extreme3 EVGA GTX980 Ti 16gb (4x4gb) Crucial DDR4 2133 CL15  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
A-Data SP600 256gb SSD (C:) Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SSD (D:) Seagate 2TB Hybrid Drive (E:) LITE-ON 24x DVDRW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H110 Win 10 x64 HP 2511x ( 25" 1080p ) AZIO L70 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 Antec 300 (Modded) Logitech M100 Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
Spit in God's Eye
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5960x @ 4.26 ghz core / 3.53 ghz uncore - 1.... AsRock X99 Extreme3 EVGA GTX980 Ti 16gb (4x4gb) Crucial DDR4 2133 CL15  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
A-Data SP600 256gb SSD (C:) Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SSD (D:) Seagate 2TB Hybrid Drive (E:) LITE-ON 24x DVDRW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H110 Win 10 x64 HP 2511x ( 25" 1080p ) AZIO L70 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 Antec 300 (Modded) Logitech M100 Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #25 of 32
Some games run like total ass on amd cpus, just something to consider.
Gran Turing(0)
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA GTX Titan SC 16GB G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Blue 1TB WD Blue 640GB LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 3x Samsung Syncmaster S23A300B 1920x1080 LED IBM Model M Zalman ZM850-HP 
CaseMouse
Antec Twelve Hundred V1 Logitech G5 
  hide details  
Reply
Gran Turing(0)
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA GTX Titan SC 16GB G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Blue 1TB WD Blue 640GB LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 3x Samsung Syncmaster S23A300B 1920x1080 LED IBM Model M Zalman ZM850-HP 
CaseMouse
Antec Twelve Hundred V1 Logitech G5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #26 of 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masta Squidge View Post

Some games run like total ass on amd cpus, just something to consider.
actually games is gonna be optimized for amd in future and if he goes the am3+ route with the 965 he can upgrade to steamroller amd wins this one

Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
post #27 of 32
The CPUs will be comparable; I doubt you'd notice a difference between the two. Having said this, I'd pick the second rig simply due to having the 7850.

Good luck with your decision.
 
dm1z
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K P8P67 Evo MSI RX 480 Sniper|1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel 330 Hyper 212+ Win8-x64 P2310H + P2311H 
PowerCase
CMPSU-650TX NZXT S340 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Dual-Core E-350 Radeon HD 6310M 3GB DDR3 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorMouse
HP External BluRay/DVD Windows 7 Home Premium 11.6" LED (1366 x 768) Touch 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 840T 880GM-LE GTS 450 Corsair XMS2 2x2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Caviar Green 1TB LG Scythe KATANA 3 Windows 7 Professional 32-bit 
PowerCase
CX430 V2 Dell 
  hide details  
Reply
 
dm1z
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K P8P67 Evo MSI RX 480 Sniper|1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel 330 Hyper 212+ Win8-x64 P2310H + P2311H 
PowerCase
CMPSU-650TX NZXT S340 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Dual-Core E-350 Radeon HD 6310M 3GB DDR3 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorMouse
HP External BluRay/DVD Windows 7 Home Premium 11.6" LED (1366 x 768) Touch 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 840T 880GM-LE GTS 450 Corsair XMS2 2x2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Caviar Green 1TB LG Scythe KATANA 3 Windows 7 Professional 32-bit 
PowerCase
CX430 V2 Dell 
  hide details  
Reply
post #28 of 32
a stock x4 965BE will be able to feed a Radeon HD 7850 (not CPU limited).

AMD has had on chip memory controller (IMC) since Athlon 64. Intel
first true quad-core processor was the i7-920. It also has the first intel
CPU to use an integrated memory controller. along with no longer using
FSB. this make a computer much more responsive.

On AMD you can overclock the IMC (CPU-NB)


Thuban CPU-NB Scaling - Star Craft 2 3.2GHz

Thuban CPU-NB Scaling - Star Craft 2 4.0GHz

Anandtech investigation on Thuban performance scaling.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3877/asrock-890fx-deluxe-full-review-and-an-investigation-of-thuban-performance-scaling/7

since, SC2 only uses two threads the difference between an x4 and x6 is very small.
Thuban has a better memory controller revision that lets you run DDR3-2000
and overclock the CPU-NB beyong 3000 MHz. Intel Core processors (after C2D and C2Q)
run the IMC at the same speed as the CPU speed. hence, much better memory performance.

even on a stock heatsink you can overclock the IMC on the x4 965BE to 2.6GHz.



Only took intel fans 10 years to admit that the Athlon 64 was faster than the Pentium 4.
In a few years maybe they will face it that Phenom 2 was faster than Kentsfield.


Please share what games "run like total ass on amd cpus"
AK 1045
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 95W TDP GABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+ AMD 790X+SB750 1... MSI Radeon 5850 PowerColor Radeon 5850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial Ballistix Tracer (D9GMH) PC2-6400 800MH... OCZ Agility 3 120GB RAID-0 Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 200GB Scythe Mugen 2 with dual Scythe SFF21F Fans (Pu... 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) 1920x1200 Corsair 750TX 750W  CM HAF932 Logitech G5 
AudioAudio
ASUS XONAR DG with Heaphone amp > Sennheiser HD... 2x100 watt Class D amp 2x100 watt > Miller & Kr... 
  hide details  
Reply
AK 1045
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 95W TDP GABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+ AMD 790X+SB750 1... MSI Radeon 5850 PowerColor Radeon 5850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial Ballistix Tracer (D9GMH) PC2-6400 800MH... OCZ Agility 3 120GB RAID-0 Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 200GB Scythe Mugen 2 with dual Scythe SFF21F Fans (Pu... 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) 1920x1200 Corsair 750TX 750W  CM HAF932 Logitech G5 
AudioAudio
ASUS XONAR DG with Heaphone amp > Sennheiser HD... 2x100 watt Class D amp 2x100 watt > Miller & Kr... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #29 of 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heuchler View Post

a stock x4 965BE will be able to feed a Radeon HD 7850 (not CPU limited).

AMD has had on chip memory controller (IMC) since Athlon 64. Intel
first true quad-core processor was the i7-920. It also has the first intel
CPU to use an integrated memory controller. along with no longer using
FSB. this make a computer much more responsive.

On AMD you can overclock the IMC (CPU-NB)


Thuban CPU-NB Scaling - Star Craft 2 3.2GHz

Thuban CPU-NB Scaling - Star Craft 2 4.0GHz

Anandtech investigation on Thuban performance scaling.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3877/asrock-890fx-deluxe-full-review-and-an-investigation-of-thuban-performance-scaling/7

since, SC2 only uses two threads the difference between an x4 and x6 is very small.
Thuban has a better memory controller revision that lets you run DDR3-2000
and overclock the CPU-NB beyong 3000 MHz. Intel Core processors (after C2D and C2Q)
run the IMC at the same speed as the CPU speed. hence, much better memory performance.

even on a stock heatsink you can overclock the IMC on the x4 965BE to 2.6GHz.



Only took intel fans 10 years to admit that the Athlon 64 was faster than the Pentium 4.
In a few years maybe they will face it that Phenom 2 was faster than Kentsfield.


Please share what games "run like total ass on amd cpus"
both rift and guild wars 2 run poorly on amd cpus. It was a huge problem for a while with both games, though it may have been improved since.
Gran Turing(0)
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA GTX Titan SC 16GB G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Blue 1TB WD Blue 640GB LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 3x Samsung Syncmaster S23A300B 1920x1080 LED IBM Model M Zalman ZM850-HP 
CaseMouse
Antec Twelve Hundred V1 Logitech G5 
  hide details  
Reply
Gran Turing(0)
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA GTX Titan SC 16GB G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Blue 1TB WD Blue 640GB LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 3x Samsung Syncmaster S23A300B 1920x1080 LED IBM Model M Zalman ZM850-HP 
CaseMouse
Antec Twelve Hundred V1 Logitech G5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #30 of 32
The 965 rig would be my choice. In my opinion it's the better cpu. Video cards are a toss up , 5870 is slightly more powerful, but uses more juice. DDR3 >DDR2 . As for the storage, SSD's are nice but the OCZ's I've had aren't that impressive. My 2 cents . smile.gif Which ever you choose , enjoy your new rig thumb.gif
Ryzen Shine!
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 1800X @ 4125mhz 1.432 Volts MSI X370 Titanium   Fury  G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 pro Hp 1260 I liquid unobtanium Koolance 480mm radiator, 39... Win 7 HP/Winspy 10 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
24" hp @ 1900x1200 Logitech G19 PC power and cooling 910 watt silencer Thermaltake P5 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech MX 518 fUnc industries 
  hide details  
Reply
Ryzen Shine!
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 1800X @ 4125mhz 1.432 Volts MSI X370 Titanium   Fury  G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 pro Hp 1260 I liquid unobtanium Koolance 480mm radiator, 39... Win 7 HP/Winspy 10 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
24" hp @ 1900x1200 Logitech G19 PC power and cooling 910 watt silencer Thermaltake P5 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech MX 518 fUnc industries 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Processor Discussions
Overclock.net › Forums › General Hardware › General Processor Discussions › Q6600 vs Phenom II 965