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Hey,

Just built a new pc and overall am quite happy but..

Recently i've been really interested in overclocking, i've always loved and been around pc's my whole life, but that was something i've never cared about until recently.

First off.. My pc has a coolermaster seidon 240mm water cooling unit with push/pull configurations (so 4 120mm fans in all), it has a good reputation and out performs the Corsair h100 in all of the tests that i've seen.. but for some reason I am getting weird temperature readings. Now.. at idle without overclocking, the bios says around 93 degrees Fahrenheit, but when i look at core temp in windows it says much lower (around 63 degrees ferenheit idle). I think 93 degrees Fahrenheit is too much for idle temperatures. I will say that my radiator fans might be running too slowly, because I oc'd the chip to 4.6 before and at idle it was the same temperature. But in the bios i set cpu fans to turbo profile so i dont know. Under heavy load I have not checked lately so i cant say what those temps are, but either way i feel like over 90 degrees idle without OC is too high. Any suggestions?

Also I am thinking about going with an extreme cooling option in the near future for my computer. I would like a stable 5ghz (possibly more if at all possible) out of my 8350. I dont want to build a custom loop I would rather have something a little more, such as an external kit. Should i look at a phase change kit (if so which).. or should i go with a good external watercooling unit (ive been looking at koolance). My budget is pretty high, so just throw me what will do the job well. If an extravagant custom loop is better and would achieve the 5+ ghz I am after then that would be nice, but I feel like I would be better off buying something like a koolance box or a phase change kit.

Thanks for any help. It is much appreciated.

Also - this will be for daily use, and needs to not be too loud.
post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by Technology Pink View Post

Hey,

Just built a new pc and overall am quite happy but..

Recently i've been really interested in overclocking, i've always loved and been around pc's my whole life, but that was something i've never cared about until recently.

First off.. My pc has a coolermaster seidon 240mm water cooling unit with push/pull configurations (so 4 120mm fans in all), it has a good reputation and out performs the Corsair h100 in all of the tests that i've seen.. but for some reason I am getting weird temperature readings. Now.. at idle without overclocking, the bios says around 93 degrees Fahrenheit, but when i look at core temp in windows it says much lower (around 63 degrees ferenheit idle). I think 93 degrees Fahrenheit is too much for idle temperatures. I will say that my radiator fans might be running too slowly, because I oc'd the chip to 4.6 before and at idle it was the same temperature. But in the bios i set cpu fans to turbo profile so i dont know. Under heavy load I have not checked lately so i cant say what those temps are, but either way i feel like over 90 degrees idle without OC is too high. Any suggestions?

Also I am thinking about going with an extreme cooling option in the near future for my computer. I would like a stable 5ghz (possibly more if at all possible) out of my 8350. I dont want to build a custom loop I would rather have something a little more, such as an external kit. Should i look at a phase change kit (if so which).. or should i go with a good external watercooling unit (ive been looking at koolance). My budget is pretty high, so just throw me what will do the job well. If an extravagant custom loop is better and would achieve the 5+ ghz I am after then that would be nice, but I feel like I would be better off buying something like a koolance box or a phase change kit.

Thanks for any help. It is much appreciated.

Also - this will be for daily use, and needs to not be too loud.

You can easily get 5GHz stable on just water, also you can fit some smaller phase change kits inside large cases. Moving an external kit around will be a pain if you ever need to and with phase change you also need to protect the electronics from condensation
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post #3 of 13
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What do you think of my current temperature situation? Is that normal?
post #4 of 13
You can definitely get 5 GHz with your 8350 on water, however those temps do seem abnormally high for being cooled with an AIO cooler. I'd definitely try reseating that CM Seidon.
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post #5 of 13
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You guys seem pretty convincing on the 5.0. I don't know if your meaning on my current seidon or on a better water cooler. I'm kind of reluctant to even try 5 (especially right now with my temperature situation). Like I said I will be using this computer everyday.
post #6 of 13
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You can definitely get 5 GHz with your 8350 on water, however those temps do seem abnormally high for being cooled with an AIO cooler. I'd definitely try reseating that CM Seidon.

This^

If that doesn't work your bios or software might be messing up, I'm not a pro with that side of things though.
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post #7 of 13
Also, you don't mention the voltage you're using, it may be a tad too high.
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post #8 of 13
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Right now my voltage is whatever is stock. I reset my bios yesterday and only changed a few small things (like putting fans on turbo). Also.. looking at aida64 sensors show my core temperatures are around 70 degrees Fahrenheit and CPU temperature is 91. This is just the browser open, with no load.
post #9 of 13
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Just set voltage to 1.4 which is what auto was putting it at anyway. Any other info or help to my original post is welcome.
post #10 of 13
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I took off the Seidon last night and removed the thermal paste and put more thermal paste on, reseat it and screwed it back on and the temps are about the same. Bios showing temps at around 93 degrees Fahrenheit. This again is not overclocked, set manually at 20.0 @ 1.4 volts. Turbo core even turned off. Just 4.0. The weird thing is.. I have overclocked in the past and the idle temps seemed to be the exact same. I want everything stable at stock before I overclock to around 4.6 or 4.8 on a permanent basis. Perhaps the idle temp just runs that high naturally with this water cooler. Under load at stock it doesnt go over 110 degrees Fahrenheit after about 30 minutes.. so I dont know what to think. If anyone can give some insight that would be great.
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