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The new Xbox controller looked pretty nice with the rumble on the triggers and mechanical feel buttons. I wont be buying the console but I'd like that controller for my PC.
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This.

People seem to forget that MS successfully got people to pay yearly subscriptions to play games on the internet.

At the time that announcement would have had "deal breaker" all over it to people like us, but people like us are neither the majority, nor their target audience.

It takes one blockbuster game to sell millions of consoles. People having to have a Kinect plugged in or a ping to MS servers every 24 hours is not going to stop these people buying the thing they just saw all over the television adverts.

I thought the same thing initially when the 360 launched. I was thinking who the hell is going to pay for XBL when Sony offers it for free? Are they out of their mind? Well..... Apparently millions of people were out of their minds. And people are saying the same thing about the online requirement and used games fee. All I know with 100% certainty is that I'm not buying an X Box One.
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I saw that. More options is a problem why? Especially voice activated ones. I don't understand why there can't be more. Red Zone is all we get and that's all. No one else need apply?? Not to mention, Red Zone doesn't have the functionality that the Xbox One appeared to show.

That's a curious position often held here on OCN, especially concerning Steam and now Xbox One.
Like I said though, when you are watching Red Zone you don't really have time to sit there and look at fantasy stats unless all of the half times line up which is uncommon.

Plus NFL Sunday ticket is about 200 dollars alone. Plus the satellite fee for those months, would be about the same price as a Xbox One.

Lets say you want the Xbox One for fantasy stats. Factor in the cost of the Xbox, Xbox live, whatever external peripheral you need to enable the TV functionality... just to wail your arms around to see fantasy stats. I'll stick to my phone, thanks.
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Like I said though, when you are watching Red Zone you don't really have time to sit there and look at fantasy stats unless all of the half times line up which is uncommon.

Plus NFL Sunday ticket is about 200 dollars alone. Plus the satellite fee for those months, would be about the same price as a Xbox One.

Lets say you want the Xbox One for fantasy stats. Factor in the cost of the Xbox, Xbox live, whatever external peripheral you need to enable the TV functionality... just to wail your arms around to see fantasy stats. I'll stick to my phone, thanks.

You seem to be mixing up additional, optional functionality with main features.

You also seem unable to realise that NFL or even sport events are just one possible avenue in terms of the integration we are talking about.

You also seem unaware that smart glass is available for both windows and android tablets/phones, so yes, your phone could well be integrated too should you choose.
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You seem to be mixing up additional, optional functionality with main features.

You also seem unable to realise that NFL or even sport events are just one possible avenue in terms of the integration we are talking about.

You also seem unaware that smart glass is available for both windows and android tablets/phones, so yes, your phone could well be integrated too should you choose.
When you come out to an unveil and say "TV" more than "games" it makes the design path pretty clear.

My point is, why should I desire this for something other than a game console like they want people to? I don't watch TV for anything besides sports. I watch netflix on my bluray player where I don't have to pay an additional fee to watch on a Xbox.
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When you come out to an unveil and say "TV" more than "games" it makes the design path pretty clear.

My point is, why should I desire this for something other than a game console like they want people to? I don't watch TV for anything besides sports. I watch netflix on my bluray player where I don't have to pay an additional fee to watch on a Xbox.

When you turn on a console reveal and expect an E3 conference where devs come up and talk about their games instead of the console, its pretty clear that if you want to hear about games, you need to wait for two weeks and watch the E3 gaming conference.


Do Microsoft need to spend 60 minutes of their time telling people that this new Xbox can play games?

No. EVERYBODY knows that Xbox consoles play games.

Do Microsoft need to spend half an hour stroking imaginary nerd junk regarding specs and how these specs are going to automatically make awesome games?

No. Firstly because specs do not make good games, and secondly because their target audience does not care.

It may upset people to hear this, but MS does not need the type of people doing most of this preliminary whining to buy their console for it to be successful.

All they need to do is ensure that content people want to consume is available and they will consume it. It doesn't get any simpler.



Did Microsoft need to spend a lot of time talking about new functionality not specifically related to games to showcase new stuff that their console can do? Yes. For two reasons:

1. This reveal was about their new console and what it can do. Everybody knows it plays games, but people would not have been arbitrarily expecting it to be packing a tv programmer, or have the ability to multitask instantly, or for Kinect 2.0 to be able to track limb rotation and finger locations . Those are new features to the console they are revealing, that actually needed to be revealed.

2. If Microsoft even DARED spend more than ten minutes trying to talk about this stuff in E3, the cry-o-meter would have been at uncharted levels. Now they have revealed to the world what the overall capabilities of the console are, they have an E3 conference to focus on the games, including the many new franchises they mentioned were in the pipeline.


The ACTUAL problem here is people assuming that:

a)
Companies daren't take notice of any other consumer than themselves

and hence

b)
Should not put any focus on ANYTHING that doesn't interest them personally, because apparently nobody else matters.

I mean, you don't watch television or have an xbl gold account, so why should Microsoft attempt to provide benefits to people who do?? What's the point of anybody doing anything if it doesn't fit your personal agenda?
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K I'm saying this one last time, E3, is weeks away.

Why would Microsoft show off most of their games right now?

What logical sense does that make?
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When you turn on a console reveal and expect an E3 conference where devs come up and talk about their games instead of the console, its pretty clear that if you want to hear about games, you need to wait for two weeks and watch the E3 gaming conference.


Do Microsoft need to spend 60 minutes of their time telling people that this new Xbox can play games?

No. EVERYBODY knows that Xbox consoles play games.

Do Microsoft need to spend half an hour stroking imaginary nerd junk regarding specs and how these specs are going to automatically make awesome games?

No. Firstly because specs do not make good games, and secondly because their target audience does not care.

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All they need to do is ensure that content people want to consume is available and they will consume it. It doesn't get any simpler.



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1. This reveal was about their new console and what it can do. Everybody knows it plays games, but people would not have been arbitrarily expecting it to be packing a tv programmer, or have the ability to multitask instantly, or for Kinect 2.0 to be able to track limb rotation and finger locations . Those are new features to the console they are revealing, that actually needed to be revealed.

2. If Microsoft even DARED spend more than ten minutes trying to talk about this stuff in E3, the cry-o-meter would have been at uncharted levels. Now they have revealed to the world what the overall capabilities of the console are, they have an E3 conference to focus on the games, including the many new franchises they mentioned were in the pipeline.


The ACTUAL problem here is people assuming that:

a)
Companies daren't take notice of any other consumer than themselves

and hence

b)
Should not put any focus on ANYTHING that doesn't interest them personally, because apparently nobody else matters.

I mean, you don't watch television or have an xbl gold account, so why should Microsoft attempt to provide benefits to people who do?? What's the point of anybody doing anything if it doesn't fit your personal agenda?
Thats a lot of defense for a company that was piping in applause for their press conference.
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I don't get why people are getting upset when all of the details have not yet been revealed. At this point it seems people are taking the limited info and drawing conclusions and/or making assumptions. Microsoft hasn't fully disclosed all of the features and policies for the new system. Then again, neither has Sony.
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