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Most people who stayed up to watch it were gamers but it turned out to be a box that mimics tivo and Roku. Have a look what sony did. They did the right thing by focusing on the core aspect of a console which last I checked was about gaming. The rest is all secondary.

That is your opinion.

What a console should be is your opinion.

My dad thinks phones should just be phones, but things change.

Your assertion that the presentation was of a box that simply mimics TiVo is dishonest and disappointingly follows a trollish narrative that because they used the word TV a lot, that it was all they talked about and that there is no opportunity for further discussion about gaming.


Anyway.


Its not like they have nowhere to show their games now. E3 is just around the corner and nobody likes when Sony/MS/Ninty spend any time talking about non game related stuff in their E3 conferences, so it is probably for the best that they got it out of they way in their own private reveal that is more suited to talking about these things than a games focused conference.

Besides, Sony had a longer wait between their reveal and E3.

Microsoft can't exactly do a huge reveal and play their best cards now, then have the same people go up on stage again at E3 to do the same demos two weeks later. That's not how you create hype. As it stands, people will continue to cry and keep XBO in the headlines for increased visibility, while also making people wait in anticipation of what they have to show at E3.
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I only can hope this time around xbox does "FULL 1080P NATIVE" instead of upscaeld 720p like last gen. If so then thats a + which from what im seeing i believe they will
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To those saying "console reveal is about the console, game reveal like E3 will be about the games", if the console reveal was really about the console then why are we finding out SO MUCH STUFF about the XBone after the console reveal? It's only thanks to countless doubts/concerns people are throwing at MS employees in forms of Twitter feeds, emails, articles, etc....the responses are fragmented all over the freaking internet in bits and pieces. Is that how MS wanted the cold hard facts to spread?
Why wasn't the stuff about lack of backwards compatibility, inbuilt DRM, mandatory Kinect, mandatory internet connection every 24 hours, etc (you know stuff about the console) included in the console reveal??

Answer that.

Microsoft dun' goofed.
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Originally Posted by 5entinel View Post

Most people who stayed up to watch it were gamers but it turned out to be a box that mimics tivo and Roku. Have a look what sony did. They did the right thing by focusing on the core aspect of a console which last I checked was about gaming. The rest is all secondary.

That is your opinion.

What a console should be is your opinion.

My dad thinks phones should just be phones, but things change.

Your assertion that the presentation was of a box that simply mimics TiVo is dishonest and disappointingly follows a trollish narrative that because they used the word TV a lot, that it was all they talked about and that there is no opportunity for further discussion about gaming.


Anyway.


Its not like they have nowhere to show their games now. E3 is just around the corner and nobody likes when Sony/MS/Ninty spend any time talking about non game related stuff in their E3 conferences, so it is probably for the best that they got it out of they way in their own private reveal that is more suited to talking about these things than a games focused conference.

Besides, Sony had a longer wait between their reveal and E3.

Microsoft can't exactly do a huge reveal and play their best cards now, then have the same people go up on stage again at E3 to do the same demos two weeks later. That's not how you create hype. As it stands, people will continue to cry and keep XBO in the headlines for increased visibility, while also making people wait in anticipation of what they have to show at E3.

Last I saw, a console's primary function is to play games with mates and not to make calls on skype etc and act as a media hub. No one asks for a media hub. A console by definition is a gaming platform intended to play video games.
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Last I saw, a console's primary function is to play games with mates and not to make calls on skype etc and act as a media hub. No one asks for a media hub. A console by definition is a gaming platform intended to play video games.

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Last I saw, a console's primary function is to play games with mates and not to make calls on skype etc and act as a media hub. No one asks for a media hub. A console by definition is a gaming platform intended to play video games.

Well, then a phone by definition is a device intended to make and receive phone calls with. It can't and shouldn't be anything else, right?
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Last I saw, a console's primary function is to play games with mates and not to make calls on skype etc and act as a media hub. No one asks for a media hub. A console by definition is a gaming platform intended to play video games.
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Using you logic last time I saw a phone was to make calls not surf the web or watch movies or play games but look that what they do know biggrin.gif . The fist Xbox was a pure gaming system the Xbox 360 started out manly game with some lite media features and added more over time it make scene that the Xbox one would have more focus on media then the last. Its just the natural evolution of the console from pure gaming to media center in many ways it is doing what Bill dreamed of all most 20 years ago a PC in every living room and that what the Xbox one is now you may think that its stupid but your not the average consumer are you and even if you don't buy it i know at least 15 people that are some just for gaming other for media and gaming. Hell I know that half the features that they showed of I will not be using but it does not real matter to me I am still getting one to play with my friends just like I will be picking up a PS4 for the same reasons I like games and have no problem using any system to play them it just the way I am. smile.gif
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That is your opinion.

What a console should be is your opinion.

My dad thinks phones should just be phones, but things change.

Your assertion that the presentation was of a box that simply mimics TiVo is dishonest and disappointingly follows a trollish narrative that because they used the word TV a lot, that it was all they talked about and that there is no opportunity for further discussion about gaming.

I agree with you and ultimately the market will decide "what a console should be." However, we need to keep in mind that the Xbox brand is still largely associated with gaming. It will be the hardcore video game fanbase that goes out and pays the premium price for a new Xbox at launch. I'm not so sure that this presentation will convince the Moms of the world to go out and buy a new expensive machine for their kids.

Furthermore, I also don't think that this presentation will convince the non-gamers to choose an Xbox over the already offered Apple TV or Roku box. The only differentiation is... it plays games. Oh, and you can wave your hands in front of a camera to interact.

I don't consider multi-tasking as an important factor as most people have a laptop or tablet or smartphone with them regardless, and as technology progresses, most set-top boxes will probably be able to multi-task eventually if necessary and with less resources since they won't try to run a game in the background. Again, I don't see this as a convincing selling-point for the non-gamer.

As one indie developer stated in an interview, "it's clear that their priority competitors are Apple and Google rather than Sony or Valve," and they are trying to do it with a medium and within a market popularized by Nintendo and Sony.

I could very well be wrong, but we'll see.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/79327/indie-dev-to-microsoft-be-more-like-sony-on-self
 
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I wouldn't necessarily draw parallels there. A phone doing those things (well) for the 1st time is bringing familiar tasks to a small and portable form factor - adifferent space than before. The Xbox one is still in the same exact space. I can watch tv just fine on the cable box I already pay for. I don't care to pay MS to curate the same content for me. I know there are a myriad of other features besides that you are paying for though. Just saying that not exactly a 1 to 1 comparison.

Looks cool just not for me personally.
   
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