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It's a bird? nooo It's a plane? nooo... it's our new "BrickBox"....
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I love how he tries to avoid the questions asked at the beginning regarding account bound games and always online.

Tying games to accounts so I cannot lend or borrow games from my friends, unless I pay a fee, just gives me even less reason to buy one. It makes you wonder why they even bother with discs in the first place.

I also think online requirements are a really bad idea. It's not exactly the greatest thing on a PC, now they want to tie consoles up the same way?

Kinect always listening in on you? (he mentions it right in that video) What else is it doing?

Seriously, what reason should I be thinking about buying a Xbox right now? Call of Duty? With Dogs?

The more I hear about this system the more that puts me off even considering one, let alone buying one. I think I'll be looking at a PS4 this generation, or sticking with my PC, because I'm already losing interest in Xbox One.

I'll probably go with the PS4/PC combo, no doubt the Xbox 'One' will have some neat exclusives but there's simply too many reasons to avoid the console for me, there's no doubt the console will do well but unlike the 360 i very much doubt it'll outsell the PS4 this time round.
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I love how he tries to avoid the questions asked at the beginning regarding account bound games and always online.

Tying games to accounts so I cannot lend or borrow games from my friends, unless I pay a fee, just gives me even less reason to buy one. It makes you wonder why they even bother with discs in the first place.

I also think online requirements are a really bad idea. It's not exactly the greatest thing on a PC, now they want to tie consoles up the same way?

Kinect always listening in on you? (he mentions it right in that video) What else is it doing?

Seriously, what reason should I be thinking about buying a Xbox right now? Call of Duty? With Dogs?

The more I hear about this system the more that puts me off even considering one, let alone buying one. I think I'll be looking at a PS4 this generation, or sticking with my PC, because I'm already losing interest in Xbox One.

I agree with you 100%, linking games to my gamertag is absolute crap. I think the xbox one will sell well just like the latest sim city game did, but then the uninformed masses are going to freak out once they realize all of the restrictions and privacy violations. I have owned every console since the atari 2600 and am gonna pass on the 360 unless they get rid of the always on kinetec big brother and fix the used game situation.

Yes I like to have freaky sex parties in my living room and if microsoft wants to watch they need to pay me.
Edited by l88bastar - 5/23/13 at 4:49am
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I'm with holding my judgement till E3 on weather I'm buying the xbox one, I do like the features of the media consumption on the console but not liking the used game fees and how much weaker it is compared to the ps4 going with current leaks and rumors, never no they might change there policy's at E3 with all the backlash happening on the interest right now. I do know if I don't end up buying the new xbox I will just skip consoles and stick with my pc, I can't stand the controller for the playstations way to small and the layout of the left stick and dpad is horrid imo.

Couple weeks and will find out all the details!
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I agree with you 100%, linking games to my gamertag is absolute crap. I think the xbox one will sell well just like the latest sim city game did, but then the uninformed masses are going to freak out once they realize all of the restrictions and privacy violations. I have owned every console since the atari 2600 and am gonna pass on the 360 unless they get rid of the always on kinetec big brother and fix the used game situation.

If you have a problem with the xbox one method then stop using steam.
Atleast MS said you can still sell and buy used games.
Can't do that on steam....

Seems like a bash on MS then anything, when others do it's completely fine.

Stop using a cell phone if big brother concerns you. you probably have your phone with you more then your on your console. Big brother is already tracking you through your phone if you wanna play with that logic.
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If you have a problem with the xbox one method then stop using steam.
Atleast MS said you can still sell and buy used games.
Can't do that on steam....

Seems like a bash on MS then anything, when others do it's completely fine.

Stop using a cell phone if big brother concerns you. you probably have your phone with you more then your on your console. Big brother is already tracking you through your phone if you wanna play with that logic.

Bashing microsoft? I waited in line for 6 hours to buy the first xbox brand new from Target back in 2001 and I did the same for the 360 back in 2005.

Who says I use steam? And last time I checked, steam was not trying to put an always on camera & video recording setup in my living room & bedroom like Xbox One is trying to do.

Who says I use a smart phone? I use cheap throw away phones from drug stores. I have never had a facebook, twitter, myspace, etc, etc account either.
Edited by l88bastar - 5/23/13 at 4:58am
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MS has the ability to change around the system with simple OS updates, considering that OS on the ps3 uses more ram then the much more feature packed 360 dashboard I think MS will be fine.
I like the idea of my console not getting outdated and being fresh and always having features added in. The ps3 has been using the same stale dashboard for ever, I would imagine it would be the same of the ps4. Also nothing is confirmed, MS is a lot better about software quality anyway. I would rather have a quick OS on my next console then wait seconds after seconds trying to go to different menus.

Personally thing about the new xbox is you don't need a cable card or anything like that (while it would be nice to have that, cable cards are old tech and oversized) having a cable box with HDMI is pretty easy to come by. Really almost everyone I know has cable/satellite TV, not having a TV subscription is kinda weird here in the states. Being a Media center is just a added bonus, it is something that currently has been working great with the 360. MS also is tossing Voice tech years ahead of what anyone else is working with into the console, along with a camera that will make it easier for user logins for familys.

And for those that don't like the always plugged in camera, yet sony will also have this for use with the controller as well so almost anyone would already have it plugged in, Yet you have a smart phone are just crazy. If MS can track you in the living room then google and apple can track you everywhere you go, see everything you like to do. They know your passwords, they know your eating habits, hell they could probably turn the camera on and watch you use your phone. You are worrying about Big brother yet your smartphone is big brother in the fullest. rolleyes.gif Seems people just like to hate on MS, I would rather give my money to MS then have those greedy sony guys sue some kid's family for all they own with it for downloading a single song. Plus you really want your info being stored on Asian servers ready for the picking... Because big brother is such a threat tongue.gif

Funny thing is even if the ps4 has better specs, having clunky features and a few good games isn't going to win people over where tech is taking off. I think the Media center is just added bonus along with software that doesnt suck and multiplayer features that are fresh. Most of what sony was showing off with the ps4 you can already do with live on the 360. Xbox live and Steam both have a easy way to join peoples games, PSN on the ps4 will be sony just catching up to the 360 IMO. Being a gen behind in the online game is not the way to go when multiplayer games are some of the most played games.

Considering that rumours currently peg the XBO at 5GB usable RAM and the PS4 at 7GB usable RAM, plus the XBOne has 3 OS'...That will not be cheap on the RAM.
How is it stale? XMB works well (IMO, as well as the Xbox 360 dashboard and far better than the original) although yes, nothing is confirmed. If you've had a console that had to wait between menus I suggest you take it back, as no console bar those that have to wait for CDs to spin up has had pauses in the menu.

Yep, keywords there: "in the states". Think about that for a second...If MS concentrates mainly on the US, why would game developers give them good support? The PS4 would have the rest of the world (Bar maybe Japan depending on how Nintendo does) and if it got a few great exclusives from that, the US too. The Voice tech isn't really that good either...Firstly, Kinect (Not sure about Kinect 2 obviously) can accidentally be activated by TV shows unless you calibrate it (I don't need to calibrate my TV Remote or my phones IR blaster, they always work once set up) and secondly, how many people are going to ever use voice talk beyond showing off, joking around or testing it out for the first time? I've never seen anyone use Siri, S Voice, etc in reality outside of those scenarios.

The difference between those is the phone? I can run custom firmware on most models of phone from day one and know that usually, those types of things are found with fixes..Reckon we'll get that with the XBOne? I'm running Cyanogenmod on my phone and I severely doubt any spying code from Google would get through all of the people mucking around with and altering it...Compare this to the XBOne which will be lucky to get custom firmware at all let alone on the level of Android.

No, but their core audience doesn't want media features..Some do, but most don't...The casual audience they're going for with those features are the kind of people who will buy a console (Which MS will sell at a loss at first, by the way) and no games, it's not a smart business decision to go for those until later in the consoles life-time. Also, have you used PSN recently? It's already caught up to XBL, it has its negatives but so does XBL.
    
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Who says I use steam?

Unless you don't have PC gaming friends, don't play the majority of PC games, or simply pirate all your games avoiding steam is pretty hard to do.
I use steam like peopled used to use AOL chat, as the hub for talking with friends. I also buy games from Steam because they are cheaper then getting them anywhere else, other then pirate (but I have money to blow so no need for that). Also I don't like using discs, and going back and forth between my laptop and desktop makes needing a central hub a necessity.

PC gaming without Steam like is Xbox without Live. It would suck tongue.gif
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Unless you don't have PC gaming friends, don't play the majority of PC games, or simply pirate all your games avoiding steam is pretty hard to do.
I use steam like peopled used to use AOL chat, as the hub for talking with friends. I also buy games from Steam because they are cheaper then getting them anywhere else, other then pirate (but I have money to blow so no need for that). Also I don't like using discs, and going back and forth between my laptop and desktop makes needing a central hub a necessity.

PC gaming without Steam like is Xbox without Live. It would suck tongue.gif

I have no online PC gaming friends, don't play a majority of games as they pretty much suck, I try demos when something new peaks my interest and if it does I wait until its on sale for cheap....unless its a HAVE TO HAVE title, such as GTA V. Systems like steam work for the PC because the pc user base is more educated and more hard core than the console gamer base and the pirating threat.

Consoles need to be plug and play so the knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, brawndo drinkers don't get confused. Not being able to borrow, trade or sell used games freely is going to CRUSH the xbox ones reputation very quickly after release.
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Bit offtopic but sometimes i wonder why MS or Sony wont do something like SLI mode for consoles for those hardcore gamers who want more power and dont care about money (yeah i know you can choose PC instead but lets focus on consoles).
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