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Ill be buying one, most i need to see the PS4 in action before i would commit to that system though. But on the reveal alone, im sold on the XboxOne
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Bit offtopic but sometimes i wonder why MS or Sony wont do something like SLI mode for consoles for those hardcore gamers who want more power and dont care about money (yeah i know you can choose PC instead but lets focus on consoles).

That's up to the devs.

Polyphony Digital included options in Gran Turismo 5 to have multiple displays (I think it's up to 3), but you do need 3 PS3 and 3 copies of GT5 for it to work.

Overall "SLIing" consoles just isn't worth it.
    
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Do you know the difference from Xbox One and Steam? Price! Have you seen the prices of games on Xbox Live? It's joke compare to Steam! Steam has sales every week which include many great games and new ones too. Do you really think Xbox One can compete with Steam on prices?! No way.

In top of that, the reason consoles are consoles is because the ease of use compare to PC gaming. Taking my console and games to a friends home is awesome. Not having to worry about installing or connecting to the internet to play games with friends is a huge advantage of consoles. Installing games, game attached to your account only, and having mandatory connection to the Internet is extraordinary stupid. Might as well just get a PC or HTPC and be done with it, because you are not going to take a console PLUS Kinect anywhere (since you need it to operate your Xbox).
PC offers way more options than Xbox would too. There are many more programs/apps and plays many more video files than Xbox One will. You can even have WMC Cable Card set up and game in one PC (without having to pay to rent a DVR from your cable company!). Not to mention ITX builds are fast becoming extremely popular. Where you need just one strong graphics card and Haswell CPU to pretty much run any game at full 1080P and full graphics detail on.

Xbox will not just compete with PS4 but PC as well. It doesn't offer anything new or make it any easier than having a remote control. TVs now a days do everything the Xbox already does like apps.

With all the hassle and requirements the Xbox puts on players why would anyone want to buy it? PS4 is stronger in graphics department AND better exclusive games. PC is more powerful and can do many more things than Xbox could ever do.

Believe it or not MS and its supporters thought Windows 8 was going to be successful by NOT listening to customers. Guess what happened? Its NOT SELLING! Who thought that would ever happen to Microsoft?! People will vote with their wallet if they are not happy. Windows 8.1 is coming to fix their stupid decisions they made. Giving people options and listening to their customers should be top priority of all companies. It seems like Microsoft didn't learn from Windows 8.
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That's up to the devs.

Polyphony Digital included options in Gran Turismo 5 to have multiple displays (I think it's up to 3), but you do need 3 PS3 and 3 copies of GT5 for it to work.

Overall "SLIing" consoles just isn't worth it.

With all the PS3's working on the display for one player? If so that is kind of cool. Or was this just basically a LAN and each player got a screen or something? SLIing the consoles would mean that the GPUs would work in tandem displaying one image to one or more screens and I don't see how they could even communicate fast enough to do so without an SLI bridge connecting the GPUs
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With all the PS3's working on the display for one player? If so that is kind of cool. Or was this just basically a LAN and each player got a screen or something? SLIing the consoles would mean that the GPUs would work in tandem displaying one image to one or more screens and I don't see how they could even communicate fast enough to do so without an SLI bridge connecting the GPUs

Yeah, I've never actually used it because I only have 1 TV, 1 PS3 and 1 copy of GT5.

There is a video on Youtube somewhere, where Sony and PD worked together to show GT5 in 4K as well as their prototype 4K TVs (it was a prototype at the time tongue.gif ) IIRC they used 4 PS3s and 4 copies of GT5.
    
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That's up to the devs.

Polyphony Digital included options in Gran Turismo 5 to have multiple displays (I think it's up to 3), but you do need 3 PS3 and 3 copies of GT5 for it to work.

Overall "SLIing" consoles just isn't worth it.

I'm pretty sure it's not worth it but like i said money aside - it would be nice feauture and in some way it could slow down console aging also just imagine those marketing possibilities wink.gif

Edit: After thinking about marketing - i suppose it could be hard for Microsoft to sell SLI feature with their xbox ONE name biggrin.gif
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Considering that rumours currently peg the XBO at 5GB usable RAM and the PS4 at 7GB usable RAM, plus the XBOne has 3 OS'...That will not be cheap on the RAM.
How is it stale? XMB works well (IMO, as well as the Xbox 360 dashboard and far better than the original) although yes, nothing is confirmed. If you've had a console that had to wait between menus I suggest you take it back, as no console bar those that have to wait for CDs to spin up has had pauses in the menu.

Sure the xbox at first may only allow 5gb of usable ram for games, but that is still alot of memory coming from 512mb total. I wouldn't expect any game in the first few years to really push the RAM limits. After Time MS will probably get the entire 3 OSes down to a single OS that uses a lot less RAM. Though What MS showed off with the One's dashboard clearly looked more advanced then what Sony was working on, no wonder it will use more system RAM.

Really XMB is a mater of personal taste, some like it some don't. I liked it on the PSP, but after seeing that it would also be on the PS3 I was disappointed because IMO it was already a little stale. Don't forget that XMB at launch was pretty basic, couldn't even apply a background. Also I liked the blade 360 dashboard the best, why? IDK it was quick and did what you wanted to do. Though the current dashboard is defiantly more feature packed and streamlined. Not only that but MS has made the dashboard pretty quick and still gets new updates, XMB is still clunky in many ways. XMB is like pre ICS android while MS is post ICS when it comes to the OS.
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Yep, keywords there: "in the states". Think about that for a second...If MS concentrates mainly on the US, why would game developers give them good support? The PS4 would have the rest of the world (Bar maybe Japan depending on how Nintendo does) and if it got a few great exclusives from that, the US too. The Voice tech isn't really that good either...Firstly, Kinect (Not sure about Kinect 2 obviously) can accidentally be activated by TV shows unless you calibrate it (I don't need to calibrate my TV Remote or my phones IR blaster, they always work once set up) and secondly, how many people are going to ever use voice talk beyond showing off, joking around or testing it out for the first time? I've never seen anyone use Siri, S Voice, etc in reality outside of those scenarios.

MS could easily take NA, and really EU is a half and half battle (maybe learning to the sony side a little). All MS needs to do is become the lead development platform for most nextgen games and that will seal their fate. Kinect isn't that bad if you ever used one, my buddy has one at his house. No more needing to turn on the controller to pause a movie. While still mostly a gimmick, it is a feature that can one day be something as natural to use a a controller itself. And MS is leading the pack in the innovation of it. Plus the console detecting who you are and signing you in without you doing anything is pretty good.
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The difference between those is the phone? I can run custom firmware on most models of phone from day one and know that usually, those types of things are found with fixes..Reckon we'll get that with the XBOne? I'm running Cyanogenmod on my phone and I severely doubt any spying code from Google would get through all of the people mucking around with and altering it...Compare this to the XBOne which will be lucky to get custom firmware at all let alone on the level of Android.

Even though it was more of a joke, not everyone runs a custom firmware. Plus I was merely stating that if you think MS is going big brother on One then apple and google are just as likely to have already gone big brother on your phone. Going by that logic I would rather have MS watch me at home then watch me everywhere I go. tongue.gif
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No, but their core audience doesn't want media features..Some do, but most don't...The casual audience they're going for with those features are the kind of people who will buy a console (Which MS will sell at a loss at first, by the way) and no games, it's not a smart business decision to go for those until later in the consoles life-time. Also, have you used PSN recently? It's already caught up to XBL, it has its negatives but so does XBL.

There will be no lack of games, MS doesn't need to show off games during a console revealing. We saw what we needed to see, the dashboard and the console/controller. XBL is still years ahead of PSN and the added live features on the One will make it more so. Also I have both a ps3 and 360, PSN is not in XBL land nor is it close. They finally made the store better, but it is still a app that launches into its own program. Still no party chat, still can't join someones game easily. Still has slow download speeds and long sync operations. Friend options are more upto the game then built into PSN. PSN is online gaming at it's basics, really it is more like xbox live on the original xbox but with a store. The only negative about XBL is that you pay for it, but 40 bucks a year isn't anything.
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Ill be buying one, most i need to see the PS4 in action before i would commit to that system though. But on the reveal alone, im sold on the XboxOne

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There will be no lack of games, MS doesn't need to show off games during a console revealing. We saw what we needed to see, the dashboard and the console/controller. XBL is still years ahead of PSN and the added live features on the One will make it more so. Also I have both a ps3 and 360, PSN is not in XBL land nor is it close. They finally made the store better, but it is still a app that launches into its own program. Still no party chat, still can't join someones game easily. Still has slow download speeds and long sync operations. Friend options are more upto the game then built into PSN. PSN is online gaming at it's basics, really it is more like xbox live on the original xbox but with a store. The only negative about XBL is that you pay for it, but 40 bucks a year isn't anything.

Um no dude, its a console...they really, REALLY needed to show games. Instead we got a presentation about how great it will be to have a system that spys on us 24-7 and charges us fees for the most basic items such as borrowing games from friends.

I don't watch NFL, I don't even have cable, but I have been gaming since 1982 and I just watched a presentation for a console that lets you watch TV and integrate with crap fantasy sports, while restricting the heck out of your gaming use.

The xbox one can BURN devil.gif
Edited by l88bastar - 5/23/13 at 6:23am
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Um no dude, its a console...they really, REALLY needed to show games. Instead we got a presentation about how great it will be to have a system that spys on us 24-7 and charges us fees for the most basic items such as borrowing games from friends.

I don't watch NFL, I don't even have cable, but I have been gaming since 1982 and I just watched a presentation for a console that lets you watch TV and integrate with crap fantasy sports, while restricting the heck out of your gaming use.

The xbox one can BURN devil.gif

I could care less about the game TBH, I would rather have no exclusives so I can play more games on my PC. I just want dev's to stop making games around the limitations of current consoles.
I have already seen what next gen games look like, I don't need to see them live on a xbox one or PS4. I would rather see next gen games being showed off on the PC.

Though for the console world I would rather have MS be top Dick then Sony. Why? Because MS innovates while Sony is mimicking others. And that Sony is a pretty evil corporation as a whole. tongue.gif

Want games wait for E3....

Also sports are like the worlds #1 activity, TV is also huge. 360 has been the best console experience, kinda hard to one up the competition on console gaming quality when your already leading the pack. MS already has the gaming aspect down, now they are just adding features.
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Um no dude, its a console...they really, REALLY needed to show games. Instead we got a presentation about how great it will be to have a system that spys on us 24-7 and charges us fees for the most basic items such as borrowing games from friends.

I don't watch NFL, I don't even have cable, but I have been gaming since 1982 and I just watched a presentation for a console that lets you watch TV and integrate with crap fantasy sports, while restricting the heck out of your gaming use.

The xbox one can BURN devil.gif

They already said before the conference they weren't going hard into the gaming aspects because that's what E3 is for, ya the features for the most part are useless to most and the presentation was horrid.. but you can't ***** at them for not showing more gaming stuff with E3 around the corner
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240GB M.2 Kingston HyperX Predator 1TB Samsung 840 Evo SilverStone Tundra TD03-E Windows 10 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2913WM Corsair K65 EVGA SuperNOVA 850w G2  SilverStone Raven RV05 
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