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Kinect is used to access your account. It will scan the room at the time you switch it on and log you in accordingly (not sure if it will recognize multiple users or not). This was stated in an interview. Xbox is always on. Kinect is always on. If you want to access your account I am thinking tape will not do you any good.

There has been much speculation about using Kinect to monitor DRM for movies. I think the possibility is there. Maybe even for age restriction. I think it will be used to advertise as well. Much like how your browser will store information about sites you visit I think Kinect can (and will) be used in ways to promote also (like noticing recognized brand names for example). That Kinect is always on and that Xbox is always on, that it requires syncing online periodically to use, it puts me off wanting one. I would be willing to bet there would be something in the new TOS regarding all this as well.

This is a bad thing? Sound like innovation, can't be stuck in the past. As long as its not broadcasting my info over the internet then there is nothing wrong with it, What MS is doing is simply progress using technology. Being able to detect who you are and learn your voice takes some good engineering work, and we will probably see something like that progress into computers as well. Just look at tablets, people used to say you needed nothing more then a laptop and that tablets were for businesses. Now look that them, Progression my friend. Xbox One will be the first smart console.
We can't get to minority report type computing until we start messing around with this tech. tongue.gif
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I can't see lending accounts going down well, especially if your credit card is linked to it. There is something in particular you need to take in however. You cannot sign in on your account on multiple devices at the same time (this is how it is now and I sincerely doubt this will change in the slightest). It is also against Xbox Live TOS to give, or borrow, your account to someone else. This is for several reasons, including accessing content that person hasn't purchased from the marketplace, censors (for international accounts), among other things.

The game is linked to your account. There is a fee if someone wants to use your game when you are not signed in to your account on your, system or on their system. This is definitely known. It is quite obvious that this is to get a portion back from the used game market when you look at the models implemented to combat used game sales over the last couple of years.

Also, just because you may not borrow a game from a friend that doesn't mean others do not. I've been sharing games with my friends for years, since the Megadrive days.

It seems you can have one live account for multipul users, though you can probably only be logged with the main live account in one place at a time. Probably not a good idea to lend games to people you can't trust anyways, though being on a flash drive would make it more secure. Like bring your current 360 profile over on a flash drive allows you to play games you own.

Even if there is a fee for used games, it will probably be a few bucks at most. Though being able to never need discs is a huge plus, plus your not wearing down the blu-ray laser.

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Why anyone would play Gears of War MP is beyond me. tongue.gif

So funny how everyone was hating the Wii U. Now everyone seems to hate the Xbox One more. I'm going around other forums and sites with people saying screw MS and go Nintendo/Sony. lol People are very finicky.

trolling right?
Gears was one of the better online console games.
Horde mode was one of the funnest things you can do with a buddy.
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Now how is that MS fault, each game company is responsible for there own online services, BF3 had it own serves as well as other games its up to the developers to set them up. Now you may have found that you like the ps3 over the 360 and your right there exclusive are most definitely run great on there system but any 3rd part game that I played was better on the Xbox Skyrim, COD, BF3, and countless others. Why is that I wonder could it be because working with the cell processor was a pain and only 1st part had any incentive to do the need work to bring out it full potential unlike the Xbox which was much easier to work with for game developers. When you pay for live your not paying for servers you paying for a up to date on line serves with party chat, ever expanding features that add to gaming and media experience, fast download and updates that I don't have to sit for 6 hours to download over my fiber connection, and its up and running over 99% of the time, unlike the PS3 which was down for over a month because of hacking and I real loved that they wait over a week to tell me that they were hack nice move Sony. But it still does not change the fact that I will be picking both up when they come out I enjoy what both have to offer I just favor Xbox over PS for online play but both have there + and - and in the end we all have to way them for are selves. biggrin.gif

If Microsoft are charging for an online service in this day and age it's their responsibility to make sure their service is upto par, what goes on behind the scenes isn't my problem, not to mention i'm talking about first party games like Gears of War and Halo, if i pay to play online i expect a lag-free service at the very least which i didn't get with the 360, for years i put up with it until i built my first PC a couple of years ago, stopped paying for Live since and havn't looked back.
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lol you don't own either console.

Not even going to bother giving this a proper response, i'll just leave you with this smilie instead: rolleyes.gif
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Why is there so much hate and fanboy-ism eek.gif

No one if forcing you to buy them? You just choose which ever one appeals to you surely its as simple as that?!rolleyes.gif They will both do the same stuff especially if you only play cross format games

Each have pros and cons I personally really like what I see/hear from the XBO so I've preordered one if you like the PS4 just get one thumb.gif (Flame proof jacket equipped tongue.gif)

So much speculation at this point though just wait it out E3 will soon be here thumb.gif
    
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If Microsoft are charging for an online service in this day and age it's their responsibility to make sure their service is upto par, what goes on behind the scenes isn't my problem, not to mention i'm talking about first party games like Gears of War and Halo, if i pay to play online i expect a lag-free service at the very least which i didn't get with the 360, for years i put up with it until i built my first PC a couple of years ago, stopped paying for Live since and havn't looked back.
Not even going to bother giving this a proper response, i'll just leave you with this smilie instead: rolleyes.gif

Xbox One will feature all dedicated servers

Funny thing is MS's first party titles had such fun Multiplayer that people could care less about lag. Plus it only happens when you play with people that have crappy internet.

Still games like Mag and uncharted 2 still had lag, so not every game on the ps3 was perfect.
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Xbox One will feature all dedicated servers

If that's true then good good smile.gif I don't wanna get too excited personally until i see it in action, my grievances with Live might come out as a bit over the top but anyone who's played Gears of War for example will know what i mean, host+shotgun=domination.
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This is a bad thing? Sound like innovation, can't be stuck in the past. As long as its not broadcasting my info over the internet then there is nothing wrong with it, What MS is doing is simply progress using technology. Being able to detect who you are and learn your voice takes some good engineering work, and we will probably see something like that progress into computers as well. Just look at tablets, people used to say you needed nothing more then a laptop and that tablets were for businesses. Now look that them, Progression my friend. Xbox One will be the first smart console.
We can't get to minority report type computing until we start messing around with this tech. tongue.gif
It seems you can have one live account for multipul users, though you can probably only be logged with the main live account in one place at a time. Probably not a good idea to lend games to people you can't trust anyways, though being on a flash drive would make it more secure. Like bring your current 360 profile over on a flash drive allows you to play games you own.

Even if there is a fee for used games, it will probably be a few bucks at most. Though being able to never need discs is a huge plus, plus your not wearing down the blu-ray laser.
trolling right?
Gears was one of the better online console games.
Horde mode was one of the funnest things you can do with a buddy.

Would you buy a laptop that required the web cam to be on at all times and recording? Even if you were not using it? I'd probably be fine if the kinect was powered off until flipped a switch or said a voice command, but with it always on you are providing any one with the know how a free look into your home at all times.

The latest I've read is that the price to activate a game will be the suggested retail price set by the publisher. You can take it with you to a friends house and log on there and play it, but once your friend is not logged on as you they have to buy the game in order to play it. Used games should work the same unless you buy the Xbox live account with it since you are in essence giving the game to some one without your Live account. Link to interview

Used games are completely gone unless all the info needed to get the game running is on the disk and it sounds like the Live account is more important now.
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Would you buy a laptop that required the web cam to be on at all times and recording? Even if you were not using it? I'd probably be fine if the kinect was powered off until flipped a switch or said a voice command, but with it always on you are providing any one with the know how a free look into your home at all times.

How exactly do you expect the Kinect to respond to a voice command if it is completely powered off? It has to be in it's low power state to be able to react.
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Would you buy a laptop that required the web cam to be on at all times and recording? Even if you were not using it? I'd probably be fine if the kinect was powered off until flipped a switch or said a voice command, but with it always on you are providing any one with the know how a free look into your home at all times.

the very sad thing is many people somehow became apathetic and trusting of big corporations as if they are more legitimate than government when there both ultimately working together to sell and trade information, much like a bitcoin your personal 'value' will become stock, hence you will be market valued like a cow.

Its all a bit abe's oddysee and here right now in 2013 - 2014 +

anyone who 'questions' technology, is always rebutted with A man child comment about living in the stone ages, well at least they had SOME privacy in their caves so yea.. call childish names the fact remains right now people are 'tickled & excited' to lose their freedoms and rights
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Would you buy a laptop that required the web cam to be on at all times and recording? Even if you were not using it? I'd probably be fine if the kinect was powered off until flipped a switch or said a voice command, but with it always on you are providing any one with the know how a free look into your home at all times.

The latest I've read is that the price to activate a game will be the suggested retail price set by the publisher. You can take it with you to a friends house and log on there and play it, but once your friend is not logged on as you they have to buy the game in order to play it. Used games should work the same unless you buy the Xbox live account with it since you are in essence giving the game to some one without your Live account. Link to interview

Used games are completely gone.

If I could buy a laptop that could log me in when it saw my face in a quick manor and that had great voice capabilities then yes I would. I loved having a figure print reader on my old laptop, and not having to type a password would be great.

Next time I bring my laptop over to my friends and need to pause the movie, no need to fumble around for the mouse. "computer pause" and "computer resume" would be awesome. Not only that but bring hand gestures to windows as well, for air movements. Toss all that with a touch screen as well and you would have a laptop with more input options and more possibilities then ever before.
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How exactly do you expect the Kinect to respond to a voice command if it is completely powered off? It has to be in it's low power state to be able to react.

Easy...the voice command is for a switch to power it on. Ever heard of a "Clapper"?
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If I could buy a laptop that could log me in when it saw my face in a quick manor and that had great voice capabilities then yes I would. I loved having a figure print reader on my old laptop, and not having to type a password would be great.

Next time I bring my laptop over to my friends and need to pause the movie, no need to fumble around for the mouse. "computer pause" and "computer resume" would be awesome. Not only that but bring hand gestures to windows as well, for air movements. Toss all that with a touch screen as well and you would have a laptop with more input options and more possibilities then ever before.

Well, first off I think you should explore the voice commands that are already in Windows...starting with Vista I believe. I can tell my PC to do about anything

The kinect thing is just that it is always on. It is like if you installed a webcam in your living room and left it powered on all the time. Sure, most likely it is not a big deal. I know there are a lot of people out there that have cams on all the time because they just don't bother to power them off. However I also have seen a lot of webcams get hacked. There are even websites I've stumbled across that are dedicated to it where people post videos they recorded off of unsuspecting people. Why any one would want to watch that is beyond me. Creepy as hell...

That is all it is that I am asking for...a simple off switch if you don't want it on. Chances are if I am actually using the Xbox I will want it on any way, but I don't know that for certain.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 5/23/13 at 9:49am
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