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Well I think people understand that. I was sort of assuming people meant while they were using it. Which if you are supposed to watch all your TV through it means most of time in the living room. If I am not using the TV I will be in a different room...heh, which is most of the time.

If it were on all the time and recording it would not be a big deal if was recording when no one was in the room anyway...well, unless a bugler was hacking in to see if some one was home. It is a big deal if it is recording at all times while the device is actually in use since that means some one is there in front of it.

Why would it be recording?
It just needs the live data, doesn't need to store any camera footage.
And there is no reason for it to stream your camera data over the internet.
Edited by DzillaXx - 5/23/13 at 10:20am
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The person interviewed is the general manager at Microsoft Game Studios. AKA Microsoft employee AKA "mouth of MS". Will you only believe the things about the XBOX One if it came directly from Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer?

What you were trying to infer is inaccurate.
Quote:
"I have to ask about used games. Will the box support used games and how is that model going to work?" Gamespot

"So we'll talk about some of the 'how' at a later date, but I will say that we understand the importance of the secondary market. The secondary market was important in the current generation. We designed Xbox One understanding secondary market would be important in the new generation as well. We'll share more details, but people should know that it is a design criteria for us on the new box." ~Phil Spencer

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You know what he just said? Absolutely nothing. There is nothing in that statement that you can draw any definitive conclusion on. Anywhere. To say that you can is delusional.


You guys just want to be right so bad that you make stuff up.

Please, just stop and look at yourself. It's really silly.
Edited by LancerVI - 5/23/13 at 10:12am
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And there is no reason for it to steam you camera data over the internet.

 

I'm going to assume you meant stream and not steam. I thought the cooking stuff was left to the good old George Foreman grill (PS3, it only does everything biggrin.gif)

 

You've already been given some possible reasons. Advertising, censorship, and DRM are a few ideas that come to mind. Remember that the Xbox One is supposed to be "the centre of your entertainment experience". The main hub that everything else connects to.

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The camera is not recording you and sending the data over the internet when sleeping.

You don't know this for definite anymore than I do know it for definite.

What I do know is that I do not trust a company like Microsoft enough to not do it. Therefore I will not be buying it. I forever remain sceptical until the technology (and hackers, because they're always the ones that expose the real deal biggrin.gif ) proven otherwise. thumb.gif

That comes from someone who has supported the Xbox and Xbox 360 consoles from day one. That's how strongly I feel about it all. wink.gif

if it's sleeping, by definition it is definitely NOT upstreaming video. definitely by definition biggrin.gif


but yea.. give hackers a few days after launch to expose your privates holes tongue.gif
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You don't know this for definite anymore than I do know it for definite.

What I do know is that I do not trust a company like Microsoft enough to not do it. Therefore I will not be buying it. I forever remain sceptical until the technology (and hackers, because they're always the ones that expose the real deal biggrin.gif ) proven otherwise. thumb.gif

That comes from someone who has supported the Xbox and Xbox 360 consoles from day one. That's how strongly I feel about it all. wink.gif

You don't trust MS yet you use windows.... if they really wanted to know you, using that would be the easiest way not with the xbox.

Personally I'm surprised I put so much trust in Google myself. I have my chrome synced, use gmail, and use google search engine so I am in pretty deep with the Info they probably have on me.

I trust MS more then Google though, MS has always been pretty good about security. For one I don't trust Sony, never did after the CD DRM bull, and after the PSN hacking that took the network down for a month really put the nail in the coffin.

For all you know Apple is selling your user info to governments for cash tongue.gif


Also it's called being illegal, not going to happen.
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That is inaccurate.
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You know what he just said? Absolutely nothing. There is nothing in that statement that you can draw any definitive conclusion on. Anywhere. To say that you can is delusional.


You guys just want to be right so bad that you make stuff up.

Please, just stop and look at yourself. It's really silly.

This one gives better detail on used games

Known:
(providing this guy knew what he was talking about)
Once you install a game its "bits" are attached to your Live account and you never need the disk again.
The game must be bought for each live account in your household.
You can put the disk in another device and install the game, but when you leave the person must pay the full retail price to play it.

Unknown:
What happens if you physically leave the disk behind? Will the game be able to be played without your Live Account logged in? Will you still be able to play it at home?

I think it is safe to say that the "bits" will be unique on each game disk and once those bits are tied to your Live account...that Live account will be needed. If the bits are not unique it is possible that used games might work yet...but I think it is highly unlikely. Other wise one disk sold could be used in countless machines and played via Live account verification.
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if it's sleeping, by definition it is definitely NOT upstreaming video. definitely by definition biggrin.gif

 

You cannot say this for definite though, and while there is doubt there is concern to be cautious. 

 

It was stated in interviews that when Xbox One is not in use it would sit in a low power state but it would also automatically draw enough power to do what it needs to do under the hood so that when you turn it on you will have an instant experience. No loading, etc. This means any updates will be managed in low power state, which includes the handling of uploading and downloading of information to update the system.

 

So what makes you think that Kinect cannot be handled in a similar manner?

 

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but yea.. give hackers a few days after launch to expose your privates holes tongue.gif

 

They won't be exposing mine, I won't be buying it! tongue.gif

 

 

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You don't trust MS yet you use windows....

 

Using Windows has nothing to do with having fully functioning video camera technology connected to the internet 24/7 in my living room.

 

And here's the thing, I already know the lengths some companies do go to with your personal information. That's why this makes me even more cautious.

 

Like I said, until it's proven otherwise, I remain sceptical and will not be buying it. That simple really.


Edited by Lifeshield - 5/23/13 at 10:27am
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Anyone who thinks this thing is "recording" and "Uploading" a video stream of millions of homes at the same time, all the time (or even only when the Xbox is on) are not thinking this through.

You honestly think that US ISP's have the upstream bandwidth capabilities to be constantly streaming millions of hours of high definition video to MS's servers, and that MS has millions and millions of servers to store the terabytes and terabytes of high definition video it is supposedly recording?

Honestly, I would be happy if this were true, because that means I live 20 years in the future when the internet actually has these capabilities...
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You cannot say this for definite though, and while there is doubt there is concern to be cautious. 

It was stated in interviews that when Xbox One is not in use it would sit in a low power state but it would also automatically draw enough power to do what it needs to do under the hood so that when you turn it on you will have an instant experience. No loading, etc. This means any updates will be managed in low power state, which includes the handling of uploading and downloading of information to update the system.

So what makes you think that Kinect cannot be handled in a similar manner?


They won't be exposing mine, I won't be buying it! tongue.gif



Using Windows has nothing to do with having fully functioning video camera technology connected to the internet 24/7 in my living room.

And here's the thing, I already know the lengths some companies do go to with your personal information. That's why this makes me even more cautious.

Like I said, until it's proven otherwise, I remain sceptical and will not be buying it. That simple really.

Most people have a phone a camera that is connected to the internet 24/7. also has gps and cell tower tracking.


Videostream is still not connected to the internet.
I could easily say that the PS4's web cam is connected 24/7 to the internet. Based on as much proof you have for the xbox.

SO everyone don't use the webcam on the ps4 because it streams your data over the internet, Sorry if you are missing out on all the new features that comes with it.

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Using Windows has nothing to do with having fully functioning video camera technology connected to the internet 24/7 in my living room.

And here's the thing, I already know the lengths some companies do go to with your personal information. That's why this makes me even more cautious.

Like I said, until it's proven otherwise, I remain sceptical and will not be buying it. That simple really.

Well as I said, does it matter it if records 24/7? If you aren't using it would likely be recording an empty room...though if you had it in your bed room it was be kind of creepy (heh, and watch some one say "Xbox on" in their sleep or something or have it hear it from another room)

However, forget the 24/7 thing. Just think about when you'd actually have it on. What would do if you went on you tube and saw a video of you on there watching a video with a significant other or spouse? Your children changing clothes in the living room while they are watching a cartoon before bed? It is a situation I don't want to leave a chance for. The only way that can happen is if it is shut off or otherwise disabled. If putting something in front of it will be the end of it then I could probably live with it. However, it would be really nice to not have to remove something when I would want to use it.
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