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Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

Most people have a phone a camera that is connected to the internet 24/7.

 

Most people can also disable the internet feature on their phones and still have a fully functioning "phone". The camera also isn't pointed at me 24/7 while I'm going about my day. You know, because it's in my pocket. Lastly, tape would actually work on a phone camera without stopping you from using your phone (unless you wrap the entire thing in parcel tape). thumb.gif

 

Kinect will always be there right in front of you as you go about watching TV, playing Games, or browsing the Internet on Xbox One. What it's doing in the background, who knows?


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SO everyone don't use the webcam on the ps4 because it streams your data over the internet, Sorry if you are missing out on all the new features that comes with it.

^this is how you sound

 

Except:

 

A: I'm discussing the Xbox One, not the PS4. If the PS4 camera is mandatory in the same manner as Xbox One's I wouldn't use that either. If a phone camera was mandatory in the same way I wouldn't use such a phone either.

 

and...

 

B: I'm not telling anyone to not use it, neither have I once in this thread insinuated such. I'm saying I won't use it and giving my opinion why. What you or anyone else does is your own business and I could care less.

 

So no, that is not how I sound in the slightest. I am simply highlighting the negatives that I see in such technology and giving my opinion on it, not dictating on what people should or shouldn't do with it.

 

Oh and using big font in that manner is kind of uncool. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post

Well as I said, does it matter it if records 24/7? If you aren't using it would likely be recording an empty room...though if you had it in your bed room it was be kind of creepy (heh, and watch some one say "Xbox on" in their sleep or something or have it hear it from another room)

However, forget the 24/7 thing. Just think about when you'd actually have it on. What would do if you went on you tube and saw a video of you on there watching a video with a significant other or spouse? Your children changing clothes in the living room while they are watching a cartoon before bed? It is a situation I don't want to leave a chance for. The only way that can happen is if it is shut off or otherwise disabled. If putting something in front of it will be the end of it then I could probably live with it. However, it would be really nice to not have to remove something when I would want to use it.

 

A good viewpoint. This introduces technology into your life that has the ability to be intrusive in a way other current technology doesn't. It's the always on aspect that rings alarm bells. The only way around it is to be always off, which defeats the purpose of it all in the first place. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by seabiscuit68 View Post

Anyone who thinks this thing is "recording" and "Uploading" a video stream of millions of homes at the same time, all the time (or even only when the Xbox is on) are not thinking this through.

 

I'm thinking of the camera being more of a monitor and sending data it collects rather than sending fully fledged video. In this regard the data could be sent when the system does it's periodic handshake with the internet.


Edited by Lifeshield - 5/23/13 at 11:05am
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Ahahahahaha!!!

This console will be always online, knew it. Their Creative Director when he walked out wasn't lying.
    
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Omg tired of reading this thread about the camera always being on and spying, that's against privacy laws and won't happen., and I swear ps4 has a camera to track the ps4 controller hence the light bar on the actual controllers... the used game DRM and Needing internet connection to play offline features is valid arguments against the new xbox, but people saying that they don't want the new xbox because fear of it recording them 24/7 is nit picking and really unrealistic and immature way of picking apart this system..
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Ahahahahaha!!!

This console will be always online, knew it. Their Creative Director when he walked out wasn't lying.

That also just answered any and all questions about used games...I'd really hate to be Game Stop right now.

Or how about rentals? Gamefly? Ick...this could be bad.
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They could develop online rental stores though. GameFly does that with PC games already.
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People defending Microsoft on this?

They have lost their way.
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That also just answered any and all questions about used games...I'd really hate to be Game Stop right now.

Or how about rentals? Gamefly? Ick...this could be bad.

I could see them getting a bunch of one-time codes for games, that you use when you get them, and after Gamefly gets the game back, it disables the code.

Maybe.....who knows at this point.
    
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People defending Microsoft on this?

They have lost their way.

It's funny because no one knows 100% if sony's ps4 is going to be the same way when it comes to the used game topic.
But if I was MS, with all the internet fire going about the used game stuff flaming xbox about it, I would change the policy before e3, a lot of people will deal with the needed internet connection but households with 2-3 kids who all use the same console, will defiantly not be buying the xbox for there family and just buy a ps4. For me it doesn't affect me one bit.

But if your trying sell this thing as all in one device, why limit your sales on such a lame greedy feature, the internet has spoken, your employees have been grilled on the matter, so do something microsoft!
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People defending Microsoft on this?

They have lost their way.

It's funny because no one knows 100% if sony's ps4 is going to be the same way when it comes to the used game topic.
But if I was MS, with all the internet fire going about the used game stuff flaming xbox about it, I would change the policy before e3, a lot of people will deal with the needed internet connection but households with 2-3 kids who all use the same console, will defiantly not be buying the xbox for there family and just buy a ps4. For me it doesn't affect me one bit.

But if your trying sell this thing as all in one device, why limit your sales on such a lame greedy feature, the internet has spoken, your employees have been grilled on the matter, so do something microsoft!

Just to be clear, I wasn't advocating for Sony.

A lot of people seem to think you are for another side if you point something out.

Microsoft made a fantastic HTPC demonstration, terrible video game demonstration. Who cares about E3? Sony had working prototypes and developers on stage with the announcement, Microsoft had what amounts to no substance in the game department.

They have truly lost their way, a few "policy changes" won't fix them. Their whole direction needs to change (which won't happen till it hits an iceberg.)
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