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True but Fermi was around 3 billion on 40nm. Let's assume the APU was that big, what possible chips do they have there that would make up for the remaining 2 billion?

Southbridge would add a few; not many though; hmmm, RAM ? Some custom controllers for Kinect, for example ? The Wi-fi radio chips, etc.

Is it true that it will come with 8 GB of DDR3 RAM and not GDDR5 ?


Hmmm, this article on TR, together with some comments there might shed some light on the possible answer:

http://techreport.com/news/24844/microsoft-reveals-next-generation-xbox-one-console
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According to Wired, the SoC behind the Xbox One incorporates pretty much everything, including the CPU, GPU, audio processors, and even the DRAM. Surprisingly, the chip is fabricated on a relatively large 40-nm process. There are conflicting reports on the fab process, and it seems unlikely 8GB of DRAM was squeezed onto the SoC. We've asked Microsoft for clarification.


So, adding the RAM in to the transistor count of the APU would make everything make sense.

As to it being 40nm, maybe it's not entirely the case:
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jdaven
May 2103:01 PM
So Wired is saying 40 nm and Engadget is saying 28 nm. So who is right?

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May 2103:12 PM
The embedded DRAM is 4X nm, and the GPU/CPU is 28 nm. That's the cause of the confusion in the press.

You'll note that AMD's next gen APU CPU (Jaguar) is a 28 nm design. You don't just decide to port something like that to an older process. But IBM's embedded RAM is only being volume produced at a 4X nm process...

The SOC is all in one package, but that doesn't mean one chip.

Some of IBM's ASIC etc. pages are down right now, but if you poke around here you might find some related info: https://www-01.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/products/Embedded_DRAM

And I've said enough.

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Meanwhile, at Sony headquarters.....


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Gesture and voice controls are so lame and completely impractical to be honest, i don't know why everyone markets this stuff as something amazing when it's been done to death in many devices and rarely does anyone use it in the long term.

Also why is Xbox One as large as a 1980's VHS recorder?
 
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Gesture and voice controls are so lame and completely impractical to be honest, i don't know why everyone markets this stuff as something amazing when it's been done to death in many devices and rarely does anyone use it in the long term.

Also why is Xbox One as large as a 1980's VHS recorder?

Because so many people thinks that voice commands take them into the future for some reason.

 

Its just for show of as well. Noone will use that feature more than 2 days.

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Originally Posted by -Apocalypse- View Post

This was posted on Reddit, and some people need to hear it:

Thank you for posting that.

I see everyone saying that the console is ugly, but this will fit in much better than the current consoles in out home theater. Sure, it is bigger but the PSU is in the box and everyone and their mother would have screwed if they didn't do something about cooling this time around. They can't make you people happy.

I went into this knowing that they wouldn't go into depth about the games. I wasn't an idiot about it, so I was not disappointed. They said beforehand that there were not going to talk about the games.


C'mon E3, I want to see the rest of what this thing will offer! wheee.gif



EDIT: To whoever says the name does not make sense, they clearly explained it if you weren't so busy nerd raging you would have heard it.
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This post at IGN pretty much sums it up for me....


summedup.jpg

Personally I would rather have every game on the PC, but sadly consoles won't let that happen.

But do you use your phone just for phone calls? Cause I sure don't, I probably use it more for texting, web, and 4g hot spot then anything
Why toss touch screens in cars? all you need is a simple radio right? I love my wince touchscreen gps/radio unit, I have it connect to my bluetooth obdII adapter for advanced car info.
Why toss Smart features on TV? while some people like me would never use them, so do and like having them.
list could go on


Considering that games have been focused on multiplayer more then ever, XBL still has a huge advantage over PSN.
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Ya except those launch prices were years apart.......in 2009 price of a 360 was $299 USD, that lappy was above $500 USD, so your argument fell flat on its face. thumb.gif

Read my posts again...

I never said it was a laptop that came out in 2006 or that the current gen consoles came out in 2009. I said
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The Acer laptop I am talking about cost me around $500 new (similar price to new games console on launch) and could match consoles on visuals and fps (some games it could even do better)

This was 3 years ago, I'm not sure about now. I would also still have this laptop if I didn't break it.

My opinion on what was said is, the XBOX One doesn't bring anything new to the table and as far as I can tell, all it can do for PC gamers is (theoretically) better game ports.

The same could be said about the PS4, but so far there aren't really any "proper specs" for the One so far, so we can't compare them.

And I am pretty sure the launch price for the XBOX 360 was $450.
    
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you dont remember correctly at all. there was never been an "adapter to plug the cable into the 360"

xbox 360 as a Media Center extender works very well.

Yeah It worked well but not many people used it. They are trying to be a media/cable box while Sony looks more gaming focused.
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Gesture and voice controls are so lame and completely impractical to be honest, i don't know why everyone markets this stuff as something amazing when it's been done to death in many devices and rarely does anyone use it in the long term.

Also why is Xbox One as large as a 1980's VHS recorder?

I agree, I mean, cell phones from 13 years ago already had voice dialling, but honestly, how many people actually use voice dialling ?

Here's a popular example of a phone that has voice dialling:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_3310
 
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Lol nothing says romance like Kinect Sports

My extreme skills on Dance Central and Kinect Sports helped me achieve the no pants dance I desired that night
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