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So, are they using same SoC as PS4? Is the GPU stronger/weaker?

that 5 billion transistors sounds little fishy



so far i think PS4 is 100% equal to Xone
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They didn't actually say that the APUs have 5 billion transistors, they could be talking about more than one chip and are just adding up transistors for marketing.


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True but Fermi was around 3 billion on 40nm. Let's assume the APU was that big, what possible chips do they have there that would make up for the remaining 2 billion?

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specs compared to PS4


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Southbridge would add a few; not many though; hmmm, RAM ? Some custom controllers for Kinect, for example ? The Wi-fi radio chips, etc.

Is it true that it will come with 8 GB of DDR3 RAM and not GDDR5 ?

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Hmmm, this article on TR, together with some comments there might shed some light on the possible answer:

http://techreport.com/news/24844/microsoft-reveals-next-generation-xbox-one-console
So, adding the RAM in to the transistor count of the APU would make everything make sense.

As to it being 40nm, maybe it's not entirely the case:




Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
That being said, Microsoft touts the Xbox One as delivering 8 times the graphic performance of the 360. If you were to go by raw transistor count, that performance jump would be closer to tenfold: the Xbox One boasts 5 billion to the 360’s 500 million. More concretely, those paltry 512 MB of memory have been boosted to 8 GB.

Quantifying graphical performance is notoriously squishy. That being said, Microsoft touts the Xbox One as delivering 8 times the graphic performance of the 360.
As PC gamers know, though, the more horsepower you’ve got under the hood, the more heat you generate; the more heat you generate, the more airflow you’re going to need to dissipate that heat. Usually, that is going to come from fans, but the engineering team kept things quiet by shrinking a number of internal components for better airflow within the console. Allow me a few sentences of total geek-out on this: A new 500-GB hard drive was designed in-house, likewise a custom-built Blu-ray–capable optical drive. A single 40-nanometer chip contains both the CPU and GPU rather than the two dedicated 90-nm chips needed in the 360. In fact, a custom SOC (system on a chip) module made by AMD contains the CPU/GPU chip, the memory, the controller logic, the DRAM, and the audio processors, and connects directly to the heat sink via a phase-change interface material. Whew.

Custom AMD SOC.

HDMI is pass through,all games cloud enabled
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one/
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So, are they using same SoC as PS4? Is the GPU stronger/weaker?

No detailed specs yet. Only rumours. If those are true then the PS4 has a better GPU.
    
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So, are they using same SoC as PS4? Is the GPU stronger/weaker?

'For the most accurate Xbox 720 hardware specs, we look towards the games development sector, which has been programming Xbox 720 games since last year. The latest leaks suggest that the Xbox 720 will have an 8-core 64-bit x86 Jaguar AMD CPU @ 1.6GHz, coupled with a GPU that’s very close to the Radeon HD 7790. The PS4, in comparison, has an 8-core Jaguar AMD CPU, with a GPU that’s around the Radeon 7870. In both consoles, the CPU and GPU will be on the same die (an AMD APU). Just as the PS4 has 8GB of high-speed memory that is shared by the CPU and GPU, the Xbox 720 — by virtue of being based on the same APU heterogeneous system architecture (HSA) — will probably be the same. In short, while there will undoubtedly be small hardware differences between the consoles, they will ultimately have very similar performance characteristics.'

Source: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare
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I think the PS4 will one up the xbox one in terms of power the main reason being that they are using 8 gb of gddr5 ram instead of 3 because it will implement GCN and you need very high bandwidth between the gpu and cpu to do this , should provide some amazing physx capabilities that not even pc's can muster .





media first games second the new xbox guidelines .
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I think the PS4 will one up the xbox one in terms of power the main reason being that they are using 8 gb of gddr5 ram instead of 3 because it will implement GCN and you need very high bandwidth between the gpu and cpu to do this , should provide some amazing physx capabilities that not even pc's can muster .





media first games second the new xbox guidelines .

Physx is irrelevant because both are using AMD tongue.gif
    
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Xone = Zone ?!!


zone is reincarnated ?
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I didnt mean it in terms of nvidias gimmick there alternatives that amd has up there sleeves to implement environments with high amounts of physics.
post #679 of 1376
absolutely tragic so far.

things that pissed me off the most:
  • all the tv crap
    -most of us don't even care about tv anymore
    -nobody outside of the US gives a flying f*ck about NFL
    -none of those features will work outside the US, yet the price will remain the same
    I could rant on forever
  • kinect
    -who thought this was a good idea? who cares about kinect, like for real? and now you include it with every xbox... so you can charge more money even though I really despise the feature.
  • the name
    -just no.
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I was wondering this during the event.
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