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I'm afraid I have grim news for you if you plan to run Surround or anything >= 1440p on a 770/680 (considering it has a 2GB buffer).
There is a reason for the 4GB 680, I have reasons to believe we will be seeing a 4GB 770 as well, for the budget builds.

But if you want a multi-monitor setup for gaming, there's already a GK110-based card out there for you, and the 780 will be taking care of that, too.

The reason that you see 2GB VRAM cards with 4 output ports is because not everyone needs all that space for games. ^^
I'm sorry. If AMD can sell a 680-similar performance card for 400$ (Right now) and have 3GB VRAM, isn't it obvious who to go for?
The 4GB variants of 680 just adds so much cost it's mindblowing (+100$ on top of a 500$ card)
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I'm sorry. If AMD can sell a 680-similar performance card for 400$ (Right now) and have 3GB VRAM, isn't it obvious who to go for?
The 4GB variants of 680 just adds so much cost it's mindblowing (+100$ on top of a 500$ card)

Woah, that is some price difference. In Bulgaria, the price difference is <50$ between the 2 and 4GB.
Yet if I had to choose a card for a workstation, even 20$ simply don't justify themselves because I will never utilize the extra gigabyte.

If you want to go with a 3GB 7970, nobody is stopping you. But this topic is about NVidia cards, let's keep it clean from brands comparison, it has been done thousands of times. Everybody can make their choice.

You asked about why there's a 2GB 770 - I see a couple of reasons and give them to you.
AMD doesn't show any competition for the time being, so NVidia rebrands the old into new as much as they can and maximize profits. It's what they want, they can do it so they do it.

A lot of people are driven by the "morally old" story so 770 > 680 even when the higher price doesn't cover the little bit higher clocks.
And for the rest, there are the unbinned GPUs sold as 680's.

Summing it up - dig out some decent chips, score higher profits. rolleyes.gif
If you want top end, 400$ or 500$ won't do the trick. Not even 2x400$ or 2x500$ for multi-monitor. And supposedly if you are blowing out all that cash on three displays for gaming, you *should* be able to spend a lot on horsepower, too. OR you settle with lower settings. That's how it works, sadly.
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I'm sorry. If AMD can sell a 680-similar performance card for 400$ (Right now) and have 3GB VRAM, isn't it obvious who to go for?
The 4GB variants of 680 just adds so much cost it's mindblowing (+100$ on top of a 500$ card)

No it's not obvious because people still went and spent over 1k for Titan when in fact dual 7970's are faster for $200-300 less.

Some users don't like AMD, some are just NV fans till death and some just have the money to buy whatever they please.
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No it's not obvious because people still went and spent over 1k for Titan when in fact dual 7970's are faster for $200-300 less.

Some users don't like AMD, some are just NV fans till death and some just have the money to buy whatever they please.

your GPU price budget doesnt apply to everyone else, maybe you are able to purchase a 300 USD card, but others are able to spend 2k on GPUs.

back on topic, i really dont see an issue with having 2 GB vram on the 770 since its just a rebrand, but yes i do believe it is always better to have more vram, but i believe this time might not be the case. but its still sufficient to lots of other people.
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their second fastest card in 2013 only having 2GB Vram when even the HD6950 from 2010 had it is kinda silly. But they were in a hard spot. See with GF104 it can either be 2GB or 4GB with GK110 it's either 3GB or 6GB. They couldn't make the 770 have more Vram then the 780, it would make the 780 look bad. Then again they couldn't add 6GB to the 780 because it would basically be a titan at $650.

Depending on the performance and price of the 770, an HD7970GE might be a better card to buy.
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That has got to be the most absurd rant I've read in a while biggrin.gif 770 is not a flagship card. Nothing below 780 is expected to max games at 1440p. If it does -great. But no one should expect it to. And 2Gb is Plenty for everyone, except those who expect to max at 1440p.
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No it's not obvious because people still went and spent over 1k for Titan when in fact dual 7970's are faster for $200-300 less.

Some users don't like AMD, some are just NV fans till death and some just have the money to buy whatever they please.

Well, keep this in mind.
In the "luxury" world, price over gains grows exponentially.

dual 7970's might be faster, but!
If you have a s#!tload of money, you wouldn't care, because.
- A TITAN is a single GPU solution. Thus, no stutter and headroom for more SLI
- Also, overall less heat to dissipate
- Also, e-peen and bragging rights.

It's like a Bugatti shouldn't cost any higher than 50% more than a BMW because it goes 30% faster. (I am coming up with numbers, but you get the idea)
It's supposed to be a e-peen card, it's supposed to be something special.
1K is ridiculous, I concur, but on the other hand - there's nothing that reaches out even close to it.

I'd take the 7970 CF any day if I needed the performance, since I can't blow out 10,000$ on a desktop. But other people can.
If you were in their shoes, wouldn't you also get one?

As per the AMD/NVidia fanboism/hate - I believe most of us are long time past that point.
Both SLI and CF have issues - be it the memory bandwidth or the stutter (yes, I was able to play on a 7970CF and 680 SLI rigs..good times. biggrin.gif ) and your choice more or less depends on the bulk in your back pocket, too.
I would justify the extra cash for the smoothness in some titles, if I played them. But no, I don't play those games anyway and the difference between the 6GB 7970 and the 4GB GTX 680 is 2.26$ USD (current prices, I just checked) in favor of the GTX 680. So as far as my needs go, I go above 3GB, but haven't reached near the 4GB cap (except for a modded Skyrim that I wanted to hit 4GB with; I don't play it). Memory bandwidth on the AMD cards makes up for the extra 2GB overkilled RAM, so I would stick with it for a single GPU solution.
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The least they could do is put 3/4GBs of VRAM on it, 2GB just isn't enough anymore, if you're going to be paying $400 for a GPU it should last for at least a year playing the latest games the absolute highest settings, which it can't since it's 2GBs of VRAM is going to hold it back.

Except even if you added 10GB it wouldn't be maxing the latest games out at highest settings...
 
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Except even if you added 10GB it wouldn't be maxing the latest games out at highest settings...

My GTX 660 Ti runs everything with most settings turned up, I'm pretty sure a rebranded GTX 680 can do better. rolleyes.gif
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If you want to play the latest games on the absolute highest settings, 770 is not your call. ALSO, with properly coded games it will be okay. *unless ultra-res textures*
Also, if your office workstation requires a huge workspace, you can easily run 4x1200p in a desktop environment without going anywhere near the VRAM bottleneck.

Also, if you want to go surround and play on the absolute highest settings, one GPU won't cut it with latest gen games. No way. Unless a fully unleashed GK110 with uber clock speeds.

Oh okay I'll go out and buy a Titan so I can play at 1080P even though a $400 7970 can do the same thing. rolleyes.gif
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My GTX 660 Ti runs everything with most settings turned up, I'm pretty sure a rebranded GTX 680 can do better. rolleyes.gif
Oh okay I'll go out and buy a Titan so I can play at 1080P even though a $400 7970 can do the same thing. rolleyes.gif
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