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post #21 of 35
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Okay big question here and I hope that someone can answer it for me....

I am going to use x3 http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=36821

I just want to know how I'm going to "run" my three pumps that I want to use with this http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=26660

What I mean to ask is hooking them up to control their speeds since there is going to be three of them? I know I can use a controller, but those are for two only. Do I buy a Dual one and also a Single one to control all three? I am trying to minimize the "footprint" on the front of the case with only a Lamptron FC-8 and a Blu-ray burner.....maybe a all in one card/USB-3 hub...

any information on this is appreciated since I have no idea about three of these as I have only used dual pumps in the past...
post #22 of 35
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I have found this controller and wanted to know if this would be sufficient for what I need...

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19760/bus-348/Lamptron_CW611_36W_-_6_Channel_Aluminum_Liquid_Cooling_Controller_-_Black_CW611.html?tl=g30c229s882&id=ncto5c3i&mv_pc=6446#blank

Cheapest I've found it with free shipping!!
http://www.dealtime.com/lamptron-cw611-water/80s3aN_U9Wv7m8a1b12A6g==/info
post #23 of 35
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I said screw it and bought it anyways...., so all of my fans will be run off of "bricks" attached to my Lamptron FC-8 and the Lamptron CW611 will be used for the temps, liquid flow and pump control. Let me know if there is going to be anything wrong with this for what I want to use it for.

Also I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for some "rainbow effect" LED's (ones that allow all colors"..... I want a couple of them along with hardware/software to control them.

I've seen some that used a wireless transmitter like a car alarm to control the functionality of the LED's.....
post #24 of 35
Damn it's going be b nice when it's all done
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post #25 of 35
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Originally Posted by mbed0123 View Post

I am hoping that you could give me some pointers/heads up on whether I should do some TEC or not in this build?!

I'm very interested in it if the pros out weigh the cons that is.... I'd really consider it if its a feasible endeavor!!
(excuse any spelling errors I miss, I'm on my GF's rig and her keyboard isn't nearly as pleasant to type on as my G710+ smile.gif)

TEC cooling can be great if the precautions are met, but keep in mind you will spend a lot of money and electricity for temps that are better then water, but not as good as phase.

He is not making them anymore, but if you can find an Arqtik controller it will be a big help since it can control the TECs duty cycle based on ambient temperature and humidity to keep the cold plate of the block 1* above dew point to prevent condensation. This will give you cooler temps then watercooling, but not use the TEC to its full effect. To do that, you need to insulate the board, processor, and block.

Two main types of TEC cooling exist - first is "Direct Die", which is what I run. This basically takes a beefy watercooling loop and basically places a Peltier and cold plate mounted firmly to the waterblock. TECs need tons of mounting force to survive, so they need to be bolted together. No extra pumps are needed, but it is best to run with only the CPU in the loop since the TEC(s) will make your water temperatures skyrocket and you need a lot of radiator space. For example, I had a triple and dual in series and my idle/low DC water temps rose from basically ambient to ~6*c over ambient. Now I will be running dual Quads since the triple/double combo was not enough.

The other type is a Chiller setup. This method has the benefit of cooling everything in the loop, so GPU and CPU can both be chilled. The down side is that you need a second pump to make a second loop. The cold loop needs to be as short as possible, pump->Cold plate->CPU->GPU(if applicable). No radiators or reservoirs, since you don't want to warm up your nice cold loop with ambient air. The hot side needs its own separate pump->hot plate->multiple radiators->res. You can never have too many radiators on a TEC setup, since they work on a Delta and the colder you get the hot side, the colder your cold plate will be smile.gif.

Keep in mind that when ran at full tilt TECs are terrible for condensation. This is because of how they handle a heat load. For example you may get below zero temps at idle, but at full load it could be 30c. That constant cooling/warming is really bad for forming condensation. I almost lost my 7970 due to condensation drips from the top of my block...even though the board, socket, and cold plate was all insulated great, the top portion transfered enough cold to cause condensation and drip on the backplate of my card, causing lockups and artifacts that I blamed on my OC before I noticed the small drops of water on the back of the card.

Some really good info in the Peltier forum here, even though its pretty slow it has some nice archived threads and there are a coupld of us active that can help with any questions you have thumb.gif
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post #26 of 35
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Hells yeah man thanks for the info. I'm going to for sure check some stuff out on it here in the near future, but I'm going to get my rig up and running under liquid and see how things are going to turn out.

Going with x4 140.4 rads and x2 120.3 with three pumps and 44 fans! Should be enough to get me close to ambient on mobo, four titans and my new 3970x....

Going to try to get as much info and pics on here, but with my newborn baby girl and my two year old little lady it can get tough at times!

Maybe I get her to learn the camera so "daddy" can get to work!! HA!
post #27 of 35
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Well here it is.... Okay "most" of it since I'll need some fine tuning when I GET it all...

CaseLabs Magnum STH10
120.4 Radiator Side Mount - STH10 and SMH10
(Color: Black Matte)
MAC-210 2 $29.95 USD $59.90 USD
140.4 Radiator Side Mount - STH10 and SMH10
(Color: Black Matte)
MAC-211 4 $29.95 USD $119.80 USD
Caster Kit
MAC-107 1 $12.95 USD $12.95 USD
MAGNUM STH10
(Case Color: Black Matte (3-5 business days for processing), Form Factor: HPTX, ATX Layout: Standard, MB Door: XXL Window (30.00), Window Color: Clear, Top Cover: Ventilated, Upper Chamber Covers: Ventilated, Lower Chamber Covers: Ventilated, PCI Backplate: Hex Mesh, Flex-Bay covers: Ventilated ($12.00))
STH10 1 $611.95 USD $611.95 USD
Pedestal for STH10 & SMH10
(Pedestal Colors: Black Matte)
MAC-274 1 $189.95 USD $189.95 USD
PSU Support Mount - Magnum
(Color: Black Matte, Orientation: Reverse)
MAC-123 1 $10.95 USD $10.95 USD
Subtotal: $1,005.50 USD
Shipping: $73.84 USD
Grand Total: $1,079.34 USD

Components:
8 x *** NEW *** Swiftech 8-Way PWM Splitter Box $79.60
1 x EK-FB KIT RE4 - Acetal CSQ (4 Fittings)
- Fitting Size: 1/2" Barb for 1/2" ID tube $117.95
1 x Phobya CPU-Cooler UC-1 LT Intel 775,1155,1156,1366,2011 - Black Edition
- Fitting Size: 1/2" Barb for 1/2" ID tube $55.99
3 x Bitspower BP-MBDG14AALPI Matte Black Dual G1/4" Adjustable Aqua Link Pipe I (22-31mm) $29.85
1 x Bitspower BP-MBDG14AALPII Matte Black Dual G1/4" Adjustable Aqua Link Pipe II (41-69mm) $11.95
2 x Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Female With Inner G1/4” $47.00
1 x Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Male With Inner G1/4” $19.95
1 x *** HOT *** XSPC Premium Laing Triple DDC Clear Acrylic Top $34.95
2 x Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black 45 Degree Male to Male Rotary Adapter $29.90
3 x Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black Male to Male Rotary Adapter $26.85
3 x *** NEW *** XSPC DDC-1T Plus 3.2 (18W) Pump $230.85
6 x Bitspower Premium G1/4" Black Matte High Flow 1/2"ID (5/8" OD) Compression Fitting $53.94
4 x *** NEW *** XSPC Razor GTX Titan/GTX780 Backplate $99.80
4 x Bitspower Premium G1/4" "Stubby" High Flow 1/2" Fitting - Black Matte $15.16
3 x *** NEW *** XSPC Razor GTX Titan/GTX780 - Full Cover GTX Titan Water-Block w/ Multiport Connector
- Fitting Size: No Fittings $365.97
20 x Reuseable Clamps - For 3/4" O.D. Tubing - Black $19.80
1 x *** NEW *** EK-RES X3 400 Reservoir
- Fitting Size: No Fittings $64.95
1 x Koolance INS-FM19 Coolant Flow Meter $23.99
Sub-Total: $1,328.45
FedEx (Fedex Ground (3 days)): $19.09
Total: $1,347.54

ex-rad-428
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Quad 140mm Radiator
4 $119.90
$479.60
ex-blc-1431
XSPC Razor GTX Titan Full Coverage VGA Block - Reference Design
1 $121.99
$121.99
ex-tub-1626
PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Tubing 1/2"ID x 3/4" OD - 10ft Retail Pack - Onyx Black (PFLEXA10-34-BK) w/ Free Sys Prep
2 $25.99
$51.98
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XSPC Razor SLI High Flow Bridge (2 Slot)
6 $11.99
$71.94
cab-240
ModRight CableRight Single Braid M/B 8-Pin to 4+4 12V EPS Extension - Black
1 $7.99
$7.99
ex-tub-1487
Bitspower Adjustable Aqua Link Pipe II (41-69mm) - Matte Black (BP-MBDG14AALPII)
2 $12.49
$24.98
Item Total: $758.48
Shipping: $11.67
Tax: $0.00
Grand Total:
$770.15
Lamptron CW611 @ $95.00
Filters For CaseLabs Magnum @ $106 after ship

I just added it all up and......well..........I think I just **** my pants!!! Yessir it's ****!
post #28 of 35
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Quick question... Should I have to worry about using "barbs" or stubby barbs along with simple "clips" on my setup for any reason?

No one wants a leak and I would assume that these would suffice just fine for my setup as per pressure and reliability should be concerned.

Please if anyone knows differently let me know and I'll for sure change it up...
post #29 of 35
i dont understand what the pwm splitters are for. from my understanding, it only works on pwm fans or pumps that run from a 4pin pwm plug. that lamptron is only 3pin outputs.
can someone explain to me what im missing if im wrong?
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post #30 of 35
First of all, don't get Corsair SP120s. They look great, but the "quiet" and "high-performance" versions are both really loud. Instead, invest in some good fans, like Scythe Gentle Typhoons, AP121s, or Noctuas (if you can stand the brown).

That is a massive overkill pump setup; I'd get a single Swiftech MCP35X instead, which will still move more than enough water for your loop, and remain quiet enough doing so.

I'd look into Koolance blocks for both your CPU and Titans. As it stands now, the CPU 380i from Koolance is the best CPU waterblock out there, thermally. Titan blocks are all pretty close, but the Koolance Titan blocks just look fantastic, and match the 380i.

Where exactly would the Phobya 1080s go? There aren't really any cases that support the 1080; I'd look into getting some nice Alphacool Monsta 360mm and 480mm rads instead, and putting them into the MM, Case Labs, Little Devil, or whatever you end up getting.

Also,why 20 fittings? You will only need 12ish if you use an SLI bridge.
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