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Hey Guys I need some big input on this here. It may be in the wrong section but here we go.

I have a friend and his work is based on 3D rendering on SketchUp and AutoCaD 2012. he does a lot's house blueprint and now he needs to start working with 3D rendering like real thing to come to life. I have told him to buy a video card to help him on 3D rendering but some guy that built his computer about two years ago told him that he only need a good CPU and lots of ram ( like 16GB up ). so I have been telling him to get a video card to help on the rendering workload to makes thing faster and smooth not only put all workload on the CPU. but he keeps repeating to me that he only needs a good CPU and lot of ram. so I like to know from the Pro's what is best in terms of computer power to handle the SketchUp and Autocad requirement to rendering 3D images nice smooth and faster with a lot details so i can show my friend what you guy have to say and make him to believe that he really needs a video card.

His RiG :
i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz
16 GB of some ram LOL
Mobo dunno about brand

Software:
SketchUp + IRender NXT
Autocad 2012
Edited by skyn3t - 5/21/13 at 2:58pm
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Well luckily he's in a great place CPU and RAM wise for his applications. All we need now is a GPU.

If this is a serious income stream for him, then investing in an Nvidia Quaddro would be a good idea.
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He might not need to buy a $2k+ workstation card, but he should at least get a real video card of some sort.
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Well, a Titan is as close as you get to workstation cards, the Compute power of that thing is impressive, I know a friend of mine taht uses Blender etc upgraded from a 680 to Titan for rendering purposes
     
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Well luckily he's in a great place CPU and RAM wise for his applications. All we need now is a GPU.

If this is a serious income stream for him, then investing in an Nvidia Quaddro would be a good idea.

I think it will be too much for him now, maybe not but I will sure he will read this wink.gif

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He might not need to buy a $2k+ workstation card, but he should at least get a real video card of some sort.

I have seem here some thread about redering on ATI is much more faster and better than using a Nvidia card . any idea of what card to get.
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Well, a Titan is as close as you get to workstation cards, the Compute power of that thing is impressive, I know a friend of mine taht uses Blender etc upgraded from a 680 to Titan for rendering purposes

LOL i make him buy it and swap with me on my pair of 670 LOL.
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I've been a architect for the past 20+ years and I will honestly tell you that if you're not doing any mass production rendering using 3D Studio Max, Accurender, Viz, or etc, you do not actually need a workstation graphic card. I use a workstation card at the office but at home, I've been using gaming cards for the last decade or more. Now I will admit that using a workstation gpu has it's perks (mainly regarding to the rendering performance & special drivers) but you will still somewhat get the same quality of rendering from using a gaming card (just never expect to have that workstation card performance).

So it comes down to spending tons of money to make a rendering that may have a tad few more "bells & whistles" in appearance (which most people will not be able to notice) or spend less to make a rendering that will generate slower than a workstation card but still look nice. Take your pick smile.gif

If he's not into gaming, there are some less expensive workstation cards (roughly the same price as the 670 or 680) that will still perform faster when it comes to rendering thumb.gif
Edited by drBlahMan - 5/21/13 at 3:13pm
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Any chance you could pop your 670 in his system to see how it does?
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If this is a serious income stream for him, then investing in an Nvidia Quaddro would be a good idea.

I agree thumb.gif

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Any chance you could pop your 670 in his system to see how it does?

A 670 will be nice for autocad just like any other gaming card...No special worksatation card requirements are needed for sketchup. Hell, I was using a dual 9800GTX SLI for autocad & 3D Studio Max before I had switched to a 6950. I had just bought a 670 (need to update the sig) but have not opened it yet (waiting for the 700 series cards to be released).
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I've been a architect for the past 20+ years and I will honestly tell you that if you're not doing any mass production rendering using 3D Studio Max, Accurender, Viz, or etc, you do not actually need a workstation graphic card. I use a workstation card at the office but at home, I've been using gaming cards for the last decade or more. Now I will admit that using a workstation gpu has it's perks (mainly regarding to the rendering performance & special drivers) but you will still somewhat get the same quality of rendering from using a gaming card (just never expect to have that workstation card performance).

So it comes down to spending tons of money to make a rendering that may have a tad few more "bells & whistles" in appearance (which most people will not be able to notice) or spend less to make a rendering that will generate slower than a workstation card but still look nice. Take your pick smile.gif

If he's not into gaming, there are some less expensive workstation cards (roughly the same price as the 670 or 680) that will still perform faster when it comes to rendering thumb.gif

thumb.gif
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Any chance you could pop your 670 in his system to see how it does?

Nah, too much work for me. I have to take my loop down remove my wb and install stock cooler.
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I agree thumb.gif
A 670 will be nice for autocad just like any other gaming card...No special worksatation card requirements are needed for sketchup. Hell, I was using a dual 9800GTX SLI for autocad & 3D Studio Max before I had switched to a 6950. I had just bought a 670 (need to update the sig) but have not opened it yet (waiting for the 700 series cards to be released).

what cpu are you using for your 3D Studio max?
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Sketchup actually requires more horsepower than autocad, it's display engine is terrible. When it comes to rendering however, that is another story... But just working with complex models on sketchup can get to be one hell of a problem at times unless you have one hell of a card to back it up. By comparison, an identical model in autocad will display far smoother, with a much higher framerate.
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