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Poll Results: Which is better: Prebuilt HP or Custom Rig?

 
  • 95% (84)
    Custom Rig
  • 2% (2)
    Prebuilt HP
  • 2% (2)
    Neither, get a Prebuilt Dell
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post #31 of 41
Of HP/Dell/Lenovo/ASUS/etc big name brands Dell has the best workstation at the moment (Dell Precision). A similar specced Dell Precision runs about $900.

If they INSIST on prebuilt go with something like Puget systems. For $2000 you can get a Corsair H60 cooled LGA 2011 system in a Fractal Design Define R4 with a Quadro K600. For $1500 you can get a Asus P8z77-V pro + i7-3770k + 8GB Kingston RAM + Intel SSD +HDD
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post #32 of 41
To anyone who thinks a 1400$ bre-built system is a good deal.... ....This is what you can get for 1400$ right now :
(although I would wait a few weeks till the release of the 7xx series & new line of CPUs from Intel)

CPU: i5-3570K for 219$

Mobo: Mpower Z77 for 205$

CPU Cooler: The cheap'n'cheerful CM 212 Evo for 33$

Memory: G.Skill 8GB 1600MHz CAS9 for 64$ (thought it would be cheaper)

PSU: If you plan on having only one card, the Capstone 450M for 60$ can handle any current/future high-end single GPU card, while the Capstone 750 for 99$ can handle any 2 GPUs

GPU(s): Two 3GB 7950s for 580$

SSD (Boot drive): Sammy 840 120GB for 97$

HDD (games & Apps): 2TB WD Green for 98$

Case: CM HAF-912 for 60$

TOTAL: 1455$ with the 2 GPUs option.
Edited by eXXon - 5/21/13 at 6:19pm
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post #33 of 41
This has to be the no 1 sin on OCN?

Giving hp double your money for a bunch of generic crap!

Get yourself some decent parts that have a long warranty?

Most manufactures offer 2, 3, & 5 year warranty on most components nowadays.

Tell your parents that when rendering complex animations/scenes will max out the cpu & place a heavy load on vital parts of the comp like the psu, mobo & cpu.
I can tell you that hp`s cheap generic crap won't last as long as some decent branded stuff.

I don't know what method you use for rendering in max, but if I was you I'd definitely want a decent cpu cooler. The best cpu in your budget.
SSD & decent mobo.

Hey but your parents know best? Yeah right.

Tell your parents that if my 10 year old nephew can build a computer, I'm sure you can?

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post #34 of 41
Are your parents paying for this? I find it somewhat strange that they have any bearing whatsoever on your purchase in this case.

Prebuilt cost more money to give you the illusion that the warranty is somehow better while affording you sub-par components. Custom all day unless you have no fingers to assemble a PC with.
post #35 of 41
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Originally Posted by eXXon View Post

To anyone who thinks a 1400$ bre-built system is a good deal.... ....This is what you can get for 1400$ right now :
(although I would wait a few weeks till the release of the 7xx series & new line of CPUs from Intel)

CPU: i5-3570K for 219$

Mobo: Mpower Z77 for 205$

CPU Cooler: The cheap'n'cheerful CM 212 Evo for 33$

Memory: G.Skill 8GB 1600MHz CAS9 for 64$ (thought it would be cheaper)

PSU: If you plan on having only one card, the Capstone 450M for 60$ can handle any current/future high-end single GPU card, while the Capstone 750 for 99$ can handle any 2 GPUs

GPU(s): Two 3GB 7950s for 580$

SSD (Boot drive): Sammy 840 120GB for 97$

HDD (games & Apps): 2TB WD Green for 98$

Case: CM HAF-912 for 60$

TOTAL: 1455$ with the 2 GPUs option.

I said it was a much better deal than the hp.
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post #36 of 41
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Wow i was never expecting so many replies so fast. I would have to agree with everything that was posted here.

I will mostly be funding this computer myself from my on campus job. For thoose of you wondering about the whole parents/graduation thing, my parents are not buying me the prebuilt HP computer. They just gave me cash for part of the cost of the HP that I mentioned earlier. as my graduation gift. They gave me it with the specific intention of "spending it on an HP or Dell." They also gave me a 660Ti. IT MAKES NO SENSE.(and shows how little they know about building computers) I dont even know if that HP motherboard would even except a 660Ti.

Anyway what made me want to make this tread was that my main concern in making this computer was a good processor that was still affordable. and after i went to the really well made charts over at http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ i noticed that the i7 3770K was just 303.90 which threw off a bunch of red flags. (The HP cost would be $399 for the 3770, not even the 3770K) i knew that there had to be a way of making a computer that was the same much cheaper.

Anyway, I am pretty much set on getting the 3770K as of now, and i alredly have the 660Ti. I still have one more paycheck coming in so I might be able to kick the budget up a bit, but this advice is exactly what I thought would happen, thanks for the help

(Also poll wise i alredly knew what would be picked, i added that Dell option in just for the lolz, a poll is a good way to prove parents wrong I was going to use the money they gave me on a custom build regardless, i just wanted something to prove that I was right, and this thread did it. Thanks OVN)
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post #37 of 41
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Wow i was never expecting so many replies so fast. I would have to agree with everything that was posted here.

I will mostly be funding this computer myself from my on campus job. For thoose of you wondering about the whole parents/graduation thing, my parents are not buying me the prebuilt HP computer. They just gave me cash for part of the cost of the HP that I mentioned earlier. as my graduation gift. They gave me it with the specific intention of "spending it on an HP or Dell." They also gave me a 660Ti. IT MAKES NO SENSE.(and shows how little they know about building computers) I dont even know if that HP motherboard would even except a 660Ti.

 

Not only that, but what about the power supply? Y'know?

 

 

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Wow i was never expecting so many replies so fast. I would have to agree with everything that was posted here.

I will mostly be funding this computer myself from my on campus job. For thoose of you wondering about the whole parents/graduation thing, my parents are not buying me the prebuilt HP computer. They just gave me cash for part of the cost of the HP that I mentioned earlier. as my graduation gift. They gave me it with the specific intention of "spending it on an HP or Dell." They also gave me a 660Ti. IT MAKES NO SENSE.(and shows how little they know about building computers) I dont even know if that HP motherboard would even except a 660Ti.

Anyway what made me want to make this tread was that my main concern in making this computer was a good processor that was still affordable. and after i went to the really well made charts over at http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ i noticed that the i7 3770K was just 303.90 which threw off a bunch of red flags. (The HP cost would be $399 for the 3770, not even the 3770K) i knew that there had to be a way of making a computer that was the same much cheaper.

Anyway, I am pretty much set on getting the 3770K as of now, and i alredly have the 660Ti. I still have one more paycheck coming in so I might be able to kick the budget up a bit, but this advice is exactly what I thought would happen, thanks for the help

(Also poll wise i alredly knew what would be picked, i added that Dell option in just for the lolz, a poll is a good way to prove parents wrong I was going to use the money they gave me on a custom build regardless, i just wanted something to prove that I was right, and this thread did it. Thanks OVN)

 

OVN RULES! hehe :)

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post #38 of 41
Unless they're buying it as a gift for you for graduation then hussy go ahead and build because you most likely know more about computers than your parents. If it's your money I say avoid the argument and do what you KNOW is right. (speaking from experience).

There's no reason to waste money on an inferior machine when building will yield better results at a much lower price.
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Well, at least you get nice customer service if your HP does fail...

Seriously? One reason I'll never buy anything from HP again is because of the horrible customer service!
     
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post #40 of 41
With that budget you can get a 3930k build. 3930k + Gigabyte X79S-UP5 (as an example motherboard, this would be my personal choice) is about $900, another ~$300 for one of the Korean PLS monitors(Qnix/Xstar also assuming you don't already have a monitor), ~$700 left for the rest which should be more than enough. Honestly, I would just go ahead and buy everything, get a good looking case like something from Fractal and they'll think it's super fancy lol.
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