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I plan to buy a home server but i was wondering what parts are best. the server will be used for streaming,MySQL,software raid,web hosting(a small site for me to learn), and as a nas. the parts i have chosen are http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YWdl
I was also considering the fractal desine define r4. The server will be Next to my desk. As you can see i am still decideing on a motherboard it needs alot of pciE slots. Do you think there would be a difference if u hook up the drives to a sata2 port vs a sata3. The board must be purchasible at tigerdirect canadacomputers or NCIX. if not I can purchese it online but that is not prefered.
The server will be running ubuntu server with Mdadm apache MySQL php5 samba. I will be converting my pc from win7 to ubuntu and might get a htpc runing xbmcbuntu.
So do you have any recommendations to improve the parts or a motherboard and is there a better way for file transfer other than samba because it seems rather slow. I am also trying to lower costs if possible. I am open to opinions. The cpu might be used for transcoding in the future but probably not.
Edited by themostawsomeon - 5/22/13 at 2:02pm
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Paragraph or at least carriage return would bring you more help since it's pretty hard to read in its current form.

Other than the overkill PSU which you could cut in half without any problem(I'm running something similar with server grade parts and 2 more RED drive on a 400w and waiting to borrow a killawatt to make sure I can add 6 more), those look fine if you want to use workstation parts(which is perfectly fine for a home server).

Some don't recommend the RED drives because there's been a lot of DOA reports, but I bought 6 of them 4 months ago and they were(and still are) all fine.
Someone with more current hardware knowledge than me could maybe have more suggestion on cheaper/better parts.

Is there any particular reason why you need lots of PCIe slots?

Normal hard drive won't max out a sata2 port so it doesn't matter either way. Your ssd would be slowed by it though.

If you enable samba 2 in the config file which the latest ubuntu should support I think(just add the line "max protocol = SMB2" without quotes in your smb.conf and restart samba and your windows computer), you'll be able to easily max out a gigabit connection if your hard drive can go that fast enough on both end. I get around 120MB/s when using the SSD from my workstation to my server so samba is plenty fast.
I'm fairly certain it's your only option anyway on windows 7. The best version of win 8 has support for NFS from what I've seen on some website listing the features, but I never haven't tested it yet since I'm really not a fan of win 8 so far.
If all the PC that will access the server are on linux, then you should use NFS instead of samba.
Edited by SamKook - 5/21/13 at 7:48pm
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Paragraph or at least carriage return would bring you more help since it's pretty hard to read in its current form.

Other than the overkill PSU which you could cut in half without any problem(I'm running something similar with server grade parts and 2 more RED drive on a 400w and waiting to borrow a killawatt to make sure I can add 6 more), those look fine if you want to use workstation parts(which is perfectly fine for a home server).

Some don't recommend the RED drives because there's been a lot of DOA reports, but I bought 6 of them 4 months ago and they were(and still are) all fine.
Someone with more current hardware knowledge than me could maybe have more suggestion on cheaper/better parts.

Is there any particular reason why you need lots of PCIe slots?

Normal hard drive won't max out a sata2 port so it doesn't matter either way. Your ssd would be slowed by it though.

If you enable samba 2 in the config file which the latest ubuntu should support I think(just add the line "max protocol = SMB2" without quotes in your smb.conf and restart samba and your windows computer), you'll be able to easily max out a gigabit connection if your hard drive can go that fast enough on both end. I get around 120MB/s when using the SSD from my workstation to my server so samba is plenty fast.
I'm fairly certain it's your only option anyway on windows 7. The best version of win 8 has support for NFS from what I've seen on some website listing the features, but I never haven't tested it yet since I'm really not a fan of win 8 so far.
If all the PC that will access the server are on linux, then you should use NFS instead of samba.
Thanks for the help Samkook i wanted pciE slots beecause in the future i would like to add more hdds and i would also like to try adding a dual or quad port nic. do you have any motherboard recommendations. and i chose the corsair psu because corsair has good reviews. But maybe the cx500. do you have any motherboard recommendations? thanks again for the help.
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You can get a single HBA with 8 sata port(well, 2 sas port with cable that split into 4 sata each) which would fill your case already without even using the ones from the MB so lots of pciE just for that isn't a necessity unless you use really cheap ones.

If you want dual nic, I'd go with a server MB since they often have those onboard. Buying a separate pciE card for that is pretty expensive(it will often be really close to the whole cost of a MB with dual nic) from what I've seen and quad is even worse.
I personally bought the Supermicro X9SAE-V and it has been pretty good to me and will support the CPU and RAM you want even though they're not server parts.
Edited by SamKook - 5/27/13 at 6:50pm
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You can get a single HBA with 8 sata port(well, 2 sas port with cable that split into 4 sata each) which would fill your case already without even using the ones from the MB so lots of pciE just for that isn't a necessity unless you use really cheap ones.

If you want dual nic, I'd go with a server MB since they often have those onboard. Buying a separate pciE card for that is pretty expensive(it will often be really close to the whole cost of a MB with dual nic) from what I've seen and quad is even worse.
I personally bought the Supermicro X9SAE-V and it has been pretty good to me and will support the CPU and RAM you want even though they're not server parts.
Yes but i want to use ifenslave and some chepee nics. Do you have any advice on the Seagate Barracuda (ST3000DM001) SATA3 6.0Gb/s 3TB 64MB Cache (OEM) http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=212&item_id=042242 do you know if these will work in raid for 24.7 duty?
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I guess I didn't think about lots of single NIC. You can always get an older pci nic, 1 HBA for all the hdd and fill the rest with NIC, you'd have 8 of them(including those on the MB) if you use the motherboard I linked. Not sure how many you want. That's of course assuming that the MB will support x1 device in all slots which I'm not sure if this one does. It probably has better chances than a desktop one though.
I've been using 2 cheap gigabit pci NIC for over 5 years in a couple of my pc and they haven't failed me yet and got enough speed that my hdd was slowing it down.

No idea about the hdd, I only buy WD drives since they almost never failed me in the past 15 years or so.
Edited by SamKook - 5/29/13 at 7:09pm
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I guess I didn't think about lots of single NIC. You can always get an older pci nic, 1 HBA for all the hdd and fill the rest with NIC, you'd have 8 of them(including those on the MB) if you use the motherboard I linked. Not sure how many you want. That's of course assuming that the MB will support x1 device in all slots which I'm not sure if this one does. It probably has better chances than a desktop one though.
I've been using 2 cheap gigabit pci NIC for over 5 years in a couple of my pc and they haven't failed me yet and got enough speed that my hdd was slowing it down.

No idea about the hdd, I only buy WD drives since they almost never failed me in the past 15 years or so.
do you know about software raid preferably ubuntu server and mdadm. i was wondering if the Seagate Barracuda (ST3000DM001) http://www6.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_1086_210_212&item_id=042242 or any other drive if they drop out of raid?
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I've set up 1 RAID array in my life on a windows server for some company for a 1 day job and never touched it again.

I use ZFS on my server(freebsd) which is awesome, but I wouldn't recommend it for linux yet.
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I've set up 1 RAID array in my life on a windows server for some company for a 1 day job and never touched it again.

I use ZFS on my server(freebsd) which is awesome, but I wouldn't recommend it for linux yet.
i hear all mobos pcie slots work with x1 the saying is if it fits it probubly works
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