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@ ahnafakeef

it is actually near impossible to google something to find out what hardware will improve performance for a given application.

also I said I am DEFINATELY upgrading motherboard, definitely within 2 months. there is no situation where I keep this p67 even tho it is absolutely fine, im going to 3 way sli to get the power I need for surround setup. 2 way sli is ok, but 3 way is going to shred.

and the gcards have nothing to do with my work, those are for games. they drive my 3 displays but are way overkill for that in terms of desktop usage.

the real goal is to fulfill the requirement of having 3 way sli asus mobo upgrade most efficiently. im already looking at mobo swap, and buying a full set of 32 GB ram, already have everything else, and am buying an SSD, size and performance known. the question revolves around which mobo / CPU combo is most cost efficient.

if I were to compare a 2500k @ 5GHz to a 3820 @ 4.6, a 3770K @ 4.5, or a 3930K @ 4.5, whos winning, given my situation? would I see any real world performance gains, other than multithreaded calculations, with any of these alternatives to my 2500K?

or are we talking about even if I get a 6 core, its not going to be much better than my chip? and all the 4 core chips will be slightly better clock for clock (this one I know already is basically true, making the decision more about pcie 3.0 support, and the memory controller)
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oh I think I did 11000 3dmark 11 on 2 way SLI, to give you an idea of what the system can do as is, graphics wise, and the power of the 570HD. and I already have all 3 cards, one is just chilling waiting for this mobo. I don't think anything I can actually afford is going to outperform 3 way SLI 570 HD 2.5GBs anytime soon, ur gona need 2 cards, or maybe the TOP tier dual gpu cards can do it. I really doubt it.

a 660ti is barely better than a 570HD, a 660 OC is barely below. to beat it in 3 way sli, 3x 660ti is at least $1000, 2 680s would do it, $1000, a 690 might be better, $1000

basically nothing beats 3 way sli gtx 570HD for under $1000. the 780 may change that picture, but not by much. that would be the reason I purchased this card originally after much forethought on the matter. at any rate, I already have them so im not looking to upgrade graphics at all.
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Originally Posted by Jollyburner View Post

1) understood 2) understood

3) I can do 4.7 stable, 4.8 stable maybe, chip has seen 4.9 and >1.45 vcore but never found ultra stable settings above 4.7 (like 24 hrs prime etc)

would consider closed loop water for sure if you think my chip can actually do 5 ghz, I think ive got a 4.8 limited by vcore, might have degraded it a bit with my lets try every combination of settings approach to tweaking in BIOS. will water be so much better at cooling than air that your vcore drops significantly to maintain a given clock?

and I definitely don't need a 500GB SSD, I can fit everything on 256 no sweat, and use my current HDD for backup/storage.

Realize that with a Z77 motherboard you will be stable at higher clocks at lower voltages; typically this has been what people have found from switching to Z77 from Z68. So switching to a nicer Z77 board that will allow 3-way SLI, along with other nice features will definitely improve your clocks that you are currently getting. Doubt you degraded your chip at all. I've been running mine @ 4.8GHz @ 1.45v for almost 3 years now. Occasionally doing 5.2GHz bench runs @ 1.52v every couple of months.

The Swiftech H220, Kraken x60, an Corsair H110 are the best performing AIO units out there. As far as air cooling goes, nothing really offers their performance. There are some air coolers that come close to a Corsair H100i or H80 though.

The biggest factor is the Z77 board should allow your VCORE to be lower to achieve a higher clock.

If you don't need a 500GB SSD and a 256GB is fine. Samsung 840 Pro, Intel 520 Series, Plextor M5P Extreme Series are some good choices.
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@ ahnafakeef
if I were to compare a 2500k @ 5GHz to a 3820 @ 4.6, a 3770K @ 4.5, or a 3930K @ 4.5, whos winning, given my situation? would I see any real world performance gains, other than multithreaded calculations, with any of these alternatives to my 2500K?

To give you a rough idea of your performance questions, In Cinebench 11.5;

My 2500k does 8.12 exactly @ 5.2GHz (i bet on a Z77 chipset it would be even higher).

A 3820 @ 4.6GHz does about an 8.80

A 3770k @ 4.5GHz does about an 8.40

A 3930K @ 4.5GHz does about a 13.00

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