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post #1 of 8
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Hi all,

i would like to ask your opinion about my little plan, which is moving my computer from an ATX case to a microATX.
I find it more pretty, more attractive, and i've always loved compact cases. However, the ones i've met before lacked power, so decided to make one that has some gaming potential as well.

The components i already have:

AMD FX8350 Vishera (ye, ye, i know, powerhog, but it has nice price/performance ration)
Gigabyte HD7950 3Gb (the 3 fan silent version)
4x4Gb DDR3
2Tb WD 7200rpm HDD
Corsair GS800 psu
a DVD-RW
and a Scythe Shuriken B slim cooler

I need a motherboard and a case, so these are the ones i'd buy:

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/760GM-E51--FX-.html#/?div=Basic

http://www.chieftec.eu/en/chassis/mini-tower/ct-01b.html

The mobo has 4 ram slots, enough space to fit my VGA and a WLAN pci card (i dont like the USB dongle thingies), and the case has space for 2x 12cm fans.

Do you think this could work, considering that i undervolt the cpu and vga?
i'm afraid of overheating

thx,
Edited by Fizzleblast - 5/22/13 at 2:32am
    
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post #2 of 8
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i thought there might be some answers or tips smile.gif
    
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post #3 of 8
I think that has great potential for power, I just have to ask why you are willing to spend money to reduce your size. Seems like a change that is best suited for your next full build. Either way I guess I am doing the same thing, I am switching from the 8350 in a Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 board to a Mini-ITX LGA1155 board with an i7-3770k. I think that case will work great, but remember that all boards handle voltage and overclockign differently and youn may not be able to achieve as low a voltage with another board.
post #4 of 8
The case looks to have fair ventilation. With some decent fans I wouldn't expect there to be a heat issue since you're not overclocking.
    
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Okay, I can potentially help a little. I went from a Phantom Full Tower, ATX mobo with i5 2500k and AIO in push-pull cooler, 7950, etc etc, to a MicroATX rig you see in my sig. I managed to keep 6 internal HDD's and a DVDRW drive inside the case, along with my specs below.

Conceptually ... I love it. Mini case is wonderful. The actual build was hellish. The hardest build ever lol. EVER!!!

Power wise, I don't see a huge difference frankly, except for the lower powered GPU - but I've dropped down from my old 1440p monitor (and 1080p) to game on a 720p LCD with my recent move to Sth East Asia.

As for your specific build, I think it would "work" ... but I don't think it will be great. Using that old-format 700 series motherboard, without VRM cooling and what looks like a pretty lackluster VRM structure (4+1) ... you will need to pretty seriously underclock your CPU.

The PSU will handle the rig. And it all works theoretically.

But my advice is to go intel. Lol ... I know .... it's a tired and broken record, but there's SIGNIFICANTLY good reason for saying it in the MicroATX builds, since there are no AMD 990FX MicroATX boards as far as I know, and the older generation ones are of pretty average quality and specs.

A lower-power draw intel motherboard and CPU will run MUCH faster (and can even overclock), on decent hardware, and will consume less power thus produce less heat requiring dissipation from a compact case.

If AMD made a half decent 990FX motherboard, I would change my tune (and I researched, because I wanted an FX6300 for this build), but that's where it stands now.

The Ivy-Bridge, low end and "locked" i5's can all overclock by a few hundred mhz, and some (like mine) can push nearer 4ghz. For a MicroATX build on a budget, this is, IMO, the best route. That's why I went for it.

I imagine you could sell your CPU for a little, and then change switch your MB and CPU. The rest will all work fine. You won't lose much money in the process. My 2cents.gif

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post #6 of 8
Not a lot of fan mount points in there, one on the front and one on the back, but the case is small so might be enough. Food for thought about a different mATX case... http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=59 ... only slightly larger but a lot more in the way of cooling options.
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post #7 of 8
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Wow, thanks for the answers smile.gif

Currently i have these parts in a working ATX system, so going Intel is no-go now. But ye, something like an i5 would be the best option, better performance and significally less powerdraw.

Now the poor FX is running on 1.25V 4009 MHz, 211x19. Not a very good overclocker, cant do 5GHz, not even on 1.6V, with water.

What about the VGA? These generate a lot of heat. Mine's running on stock clocks and 1V gpu voltage, that voltage decrease helps a lot, but in a closed microATX, well i dont know thinking.gif
    
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post #8 of 8
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Well, the project is cancelled.. Too little space for too warm hardware.
    
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