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Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 image released

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Since I'm sick to death of reading the same 2 OSs posted in here, I thought I'd vary it up with some Hurd news:

https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.html
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Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 released!

It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013. This is a snapshot of Debian "sid" at the time of the Debian "wheezy" release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is not an official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release.

The installation ISO images can be downloaded from Debian Ports in the usual three Debian flavors: NETINST, CD, DVD. Besides the friendly Debian installer, a pre-installed disk image is also available, making it even easier to try Debian GNU/Hurd.

Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 architecture with more than 10.000 software packages available (more than 75% of the Debian archive, and more to come!).

Please make sure to read the configuration information, the FAQ, and the translator primer to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd.

Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful operating systems, but we believe to have reached a very decent state, even with our limited resources.

We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people today, please join!), but in the end a lot of people have contributed one way or another. Thanks everybody!
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So is it desktop ready now?
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So is it desktop ready now?
Doubtful, but some guys on HN seem to think it's getting there:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5749007
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guess it's i386 only for now, nevermind then lol
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guess it's i386 only for now, nevermind then lol

and will be for awhile. it didn't (as of the last I used it, about 6-9 months ago) have sata support, nor was it pressing the limits of non-pae usable ram. (1GB, I think. Not sure, I only gave my VM 512MBs) definitely going to try this new release. I think the goal was a wheezy tech preview by the end of wheezy. I'm not sure if this is it, but going to check it out.
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Yeah I was thinking of using a VM for it, see if it has any usable desktop. I'm not really in the mood for the dark ages again, the years of nothing but CLI linux should be over. =P (in this case gnu/hurd)
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Yeah I was thinking of using a VM for it, see if it has any usable desktop. I'm not really in the mood for the dark ages again, the years of nothing but CLI linux should be over. =P (in this case gnu/hurd)

All of it's packages are very up to date with the rest of debian (with some exceptions) but the hurd itself is based on the GNU Mach, which, is well over 20, maybe even 25 years old and had very little support compared to the 'major' kernels. They have been efforts to put the hurd to a newer microkernel, such as the L4 (although that would kind of make hurd redundant, since a lot of it is to avoid problems in the Mach) but, with little support for how it currently is, the real hope is sata support, more ram, and hopefully PAE in the nearish future.
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the years of nothing but CLI linux should be over. =P (in this case gnu/hurd)

I guess that's where the opinions of server administrators and desktop users differ smile.gif
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I guess that's where the opinions of server administrators and desktop users differ smile.gif

I wouldn't say that exactly. Just the difference between educated and non-educated users. Anyone with a hint of command line knowledge knows it's more powerful than a GUI in the majority of cases. It's just quicker and all around more efficient.

Makes diagnosing and fixing a problem 100's of times easier, especially when it comes to helping someone via forums or mail. Give them one command and done, instead of trying to guide them through a slew of menus, tabs, and options and end up not being entirely sure if they actually went to the right place.

Although I guess even if you're a desktop user with such knowledge you might as well be labelled an admin thus making my whole post moot.

I'm biased, what can I say frown.gif
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You guys.... I can use a CLI... However, I like my youtube, steam, mainly I want a desktop not a text promp. Nothing wrong with a text promp, it just doesn't run some of the programs I want running.

Mainly, I want a desktop now with a full fledged xorg server (or xorg like server). CLI is fun and dandy, just not exactly what I want to spend huge amounts of time on.
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