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Graphics Interchange Format makes it pronounced GIF not JIF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobius01 View Post

How can something so mundane spark outrage (and a 24 page thread) tongue.gif

I've always pronounced it GIF, not JIF and I'll continue to do so.

Only 9 pages here goatee.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talon95 View Post

Maybe the creator has his head stuck up his butt.

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Graphics Interchange Format.

Please explain to me where "Graphics" is pronounced with a soft G. Jraphics? Jerrasic Park? Lol.

The creator is wrong. I'll still pronounce it gif. ^-^

This.

Doesn't matter if you're the creator, you can't just change how phonetics work.
    
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Originally Posted by RAND0M1ZER View Post

This.

Doesn't matter if you're the creator, you can't just change how phonetics work.

Nobody is changing phonetics, it is an acronym and can be pronounced however it is desired. SCSI, for example. Instead of Scuzzy, do you say Suh-Kuh-Sih-Ih to be phonetically correct? No, because that would sound stupid, just like saying GIF instead of JIF.
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I always pronounced it "JIf" biggrin.gif
I don't think they use phonetics to teach reading in the US anymore. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
..Wonder who the brainchild that came up with that idea was? doh.gif
 
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i'm pretty sure this is the biggest troll i've ever seen.
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post #247 of 333
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomfix View Post

I've also called it "Jif" thumbsupsmiley.png

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Originally Posted by Lifeshield View Post

Except that Gi is the shortened English version, not the Japanese version (which is Keikogi). The Japanese don't use the word Gi. We do.

Gi is also an acknowledged word in the Oxford English Dictionary. wink.gif


I'm not discussing G.I. which is obvious because G.I. is separated by periods. The word I used, clearly, was Gi.

I am English, not American. G.I. in English is pronounced via letters not as a word (re: G.I. Joe). God imagine saying that as a word with G.I as a soft G? Gee Joe! Would sound ridiculous!  If you, or anyone else, does not like that you can blame all the G.I Joe adverts we had when I was a kid. biggrin.gif


No. Comparing an English word (Gift), an English variation of a Japanese word acknowledged by the Oxford English Dictionary (Gi), with an debateable American English acronym (Gif).

You're comparing an American English acronym / nickname (G.I.) with an English variation of a French word acknowledged by the Oxford English Dictionary (Gin) and a debateable American English acronym (Gif).

Look at it how we read, and pronounce, it in English. Gi is not pronounced as Gee (a slang word which uses a soft G). Gin doesn't even come into the equation in this instance. It has no relation when you put the words in this format.

Gi > Gif > Gift

I'll also note here that both versions are acknowledged by the Oxford English Dictionary. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. I'm pronouncing it with a hard G and it can be done with. tongue.gif

And after all that there is still the matter of Jif already being an acronym in the computer industry. Pronounce it with a silent J just because?

Being posted in the Oxford English Dictionary doesn't strip a word of it origin... It's pronounced with a soft G in English because it's pronounced with a soft G in Japanese.

Regardless, as many have demonstrated, if you try to argue this with any sort of rule, you're not going to get anywhere. There's a reason English is so difficult to learn as a second language; even if you follow the "rules", you're wrong much of the time.

There are words that both affirm and contradict both pronunciations.

The only thing we have going is the "origin", similar to Gi. The English pronunciation is modeled off of the Japanese pronunciation. Therefore, the English pronunciation of GIF should be modeled on its origin, i.e. it's creator.
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I don't really care how it's pronounced. Personally, I say gif although I'll agree jif is phonetically correct.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lifeshield View Post

Gi > Gif > Gift
As i said, the rules apply before the exceptions. Since we never had a clearly defined exception, the rule applied first. And now the creator of it has said otherwise, and since he invented the acronym, it is his call as to how it is pronounced.
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