Originally Posted by Lifeshield
Except that Gi is the shortened English version, not the Japanese version (which is Keikogi). The Japanese don't use the word Gi. We do.
Gi is also an acknowledged word in the Oxford English Dictionary.
I'm not discussing G.I. which is obvious because G.I. is separated by periods. The word I used, clearly, was Gi.
I am English, not American. G.I. in English is pronounced via letters not as a word (re: G.I. Joe). God imagine saying that as a word with G.I as a soft G? Gee Joe! Would sound ridiculous! If you, or anyone else, does not like that you can blame all the G.I Joe adverts we had when I was a kid.
No. Comparing an English word (Gift), an English variation of a Japanese word acknowledged by the Oxford English Dictionary (Gi), with an debateable American English acronym (Gif).
You're comparing an American English acronym / nickname (G.I.) with an English variation of a French word acknowledged by the Oxford English Dictionary (Gin) and a debateable American English acronym (Gif).
Look at it how we read, and pronounce, it in English. Gi is not pronounced as Gee (a slang word which uses a soft G). Gin doesn't even come into the equation in this instance. It has no relation when you put the words in this format.
Gi > Gif > Gift
I'll also note here that both versions are acknowledged by the Oxford English Dictionary. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. I'm pronouncing it with a hard G and it can be done with.
And after all that there is still the matter of Jif already being an acronym in the computer industry. Pronounce it with a silent J just because?
Being posted in the Oxford English Dictionary doesn't strip a word of it origin... It's pronounced with a soft G in English because it's pronounced with a soft G in Japanese.
Regardless, as many have demonstrated, if you try to argue this with any sort of rule, you're not going to get anywhere. There's a reason English is so difficult to learn as a second language; even if you follow the "rules", you're wrong much of the time.
There are words that both affirm and contradict both pronunciations.
The only thing we have going is the "origin", similar to Gi. The English pronunciation is modeled off of the Japanese pronunciation. Therefore, the English pronunciation of GIF should be modeled on its origin, i.e. it's creator.