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*fee for games not tied to you account (can't let my friend borrow my games)
*online at least once every 24hrs!
*Overlay on top of cable box (Google TV failed).
*not for gamers at all. Made for watching tv.
*paying for multiplayer
*kinect need to be connected so you can use your Xbox

That is pretty much confirm already (I could even list more negatives). No need to wait for E3 to know that Xbox will be a massive failure.

Can't wait to see how Microsoft fails again like Windows 8. If I could laugh on the people who are in charge of Microsoft and Xbox at their face I would. I can't wait. Idiots did not listen to the customers once again.

Always on complaint is a joke. Its like complaining about needing internet to access overclock. In todays world internet is in almost every home, having a console that requires it is not horrible.
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Always on complaint is a joke. Its like complaining about needing internet to access overclock. In todays world internet is in almost every home, having a console that requires it is not horrible.

Actually, the big problem with an "always-on" component is the lack of redundancy. You use the example of accessing overclock, but fail to mention that if your home network is down, you can always use your smartphone to get there. I think if any device requires to be always online, it should be outfitted with 3G/4G cellular capabilities -- for free -- to do whatever handshaking needs to be done.
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Always on complaint is a joke. Its like complaining about needing internet to access overclock. In todays world internet is in almost every home, having a console that requires it is not horrible.

How is it a joke? What happens when I want to take my Xbox to my home near Yosemite? I have NO Internet and my phone Internet is SUPER slow! What happens then?
What happens when I take my Xbox to a youth retreat? I am a youth leader and I take my Xbox so that the youth can play at a retreat. There is NO Internet there. What happens now?
What happens when my buddy that is in the military takes his Xbox to a place that there is no Internet?

Stop thinking the whole world has high speed Internet. Looks like you don't do crap except stay at your home always. Cause if you don't you wouldn't be saying that.

Not to mention I cannot let my friend borrow my halo disk if he want to play it. That is a huge advantage of a console compare to a PC. PC is a loners gaming machine. I love it but when I want to play with friend in gatherings I love my consoles. This kills a big positive consoles have over gaming. We let each other borrow games we have purchased. At work my friend always lets me borrow and I let him borrow my games. Now we can't on the Xbox. What a shame. I hope MS goes down in flames for this.
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Actually, the big problem with an "always-on" component is the lack of redundancy. You use the example of accessing overclock, but fail to mention that if your home network is down, you can always use your smartphone to get there. I think if any device requires to be always online, it should be outfitted with 3G/4G cellular capabilities -- for free -- to do whatever handshaking needs to be done.

LOL free 3g/4g? Yeah. That would bring the price of the xbox to like 2k each. good joke.
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is there any word if sony will be pulling the same crap about not being able to play used games?
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LOL free 3g/4g? Yeah. That would bring the price of the xbox to like 2k each. good joke.
How is my point a joke? If someone is trying to require their user to do something, then they better provide the capability in the equipment to do so, don't you think?
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How is my point a joke? If someone is trying to require their user to do something, then they better provide the capability in the equipment to do so, don't you think?
It's a joke because if they gave away free internet then they would have to pay for their users to use that internet. That would bring the price of the console up. They have to have a way to pay for all the crap they put out.
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And the new Call of Duty looks absolutely terrible. 'Next-gen' engine and all. Looks like a PC game from 2008, ROFL!!
Thats a bit genarous, crysis was out in 2007 and COD's "next gen engine" cant even compare let alone match it tongue.gif (bit unfair though, i bet crysis 1 will beat anything released for "next gen" consoles whole life cycle)
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How is it a joke? What happens when I want to take my Xbox to my home near Yosemite? I have NO Internet and my phone Internet is SUPER slow! What happens then?
What happens when I take my Xbox to a youth retreat? I am a youth leader and I take my Xbox so that the youth can play at a retreat. There is NO Internet there. What happens now?
What happens when my buddy that is in the military takes his Xbox to a place that there is no Internet?

Stop thinking the whole world has high speed Internet. Looks like you don't do crap except stay at your home always. Cause if you don't you wouldn't be saying that.

Not to mention I cannot let my friend borrow my halo disk if he want to play it. That is a huge advantage of a console compare to a PC. PC is a loners gaming machine. I love it but when I want to play with friend in gatherings I love my consoles. This kills a big positive consoles have over gaming. We let each other borrow games we have purchased. At work my friend always lets me borrow and I let him borrow my games. Now we can't on the Xbox. What a shame. I hope MS goes down in flames for this.

Lol dont do crap? Get off your horse you pretentious jackwagon. I work 2 jobs. One 40-55 and another up to 25. I also have kids, help with homework, do chores and still have time for my hobbies.

My point is about 80% of households have internet, and the remaining 20% could have it under the new internet for low income families. I guarantee there will be an option for non online play.

The letting people borrow games, the all mighty pc gaming hasnt been able to let friends borrow games forever and thats not a big deal.
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Anyone know what is going on with the DRM aspect of it I have not been able to find any reliable sources for it, all I know is they are basically screwing the game market. I saw where when asked about their method of authenticating an install how it would work if another person in the same house wanted to play the game they had no comment on the matter. Are they REALLY going to tell me my incentive to go from PS3 to a XBOX One is that I have to buy ALL my own games and cannot share a single thing with my roommates? I will pass thank you... I mean i even understand the used game aspect of it. But if I cannot share within my own household then no way.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like XBOX made a lateral move with this one. Why put so much effort into a system that switches inputs per your voice? Are we really that f-ing lazy? Just buy a universal remote. Or better yet invest more money into making the gaming portion of it better instead of the social and media portion of it. If I want something that will do everything I would just invest in building another computer and connect it to my TV and use it for media and gaming.
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