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post #1 of 11
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Hey guys,
I want to build a quality and compact water loop and was thinking to use the apogee drive II + radiator.
Is it possible to use this without the reservoir? And what rad would you recommend.

Thanks.
post #2 of 11
You can use a "T-Line". The type and size of the radiator depends on your case. Swiftech also makes a 240mm radiator with a built in reservoir if you can accommodate for that . wink.gif

http://www.swiftech.com/mcr-x20-drive-rev3.aspx

Just get it without the pump since you will be using the ADII instead

Or go straight with the H220.

http://www.swiftech.com/H220.aspx
Edited by hyp36rmax - 5/22/13 at 12:03pm
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I need it to be small (120mm Single). Only the cpu will be water cooled, can I just fill a rad with water (without the reservoir)?

BTW, because of you I want the ADII thumb.gif
post #4 of 11
Get a rad like the UT60, that has a port on top you can use to fill and cap it off when done.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14855/ex-rad-331/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Single_120mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s159#blank
 
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I need it to be small (120mm Single). Only the cpu will be water cooled, can I just fill a rad with water (without the reservoir)?

This is what I did as well. Apogee Drive 2 -> Heatkiller Core LC -> AX120 radiator. It's easy to fill, but hard to bleed out all the air bubbles.

I tried the T-split before the pump, after the pump and coming from the radiator. I tried pump running slow and pump fast. I tried with fill port open and with it closed. Squeezing the tubes sometimes helped gather a single bubble, but still many many microbubbles flowing around the loop. I spent days trying to do it this way.

Eventually I got some extra tubing, screwed a fillport into an ice cream tub to use as ghetto reservoir. I had it sufficiently bled within 30 mins. Turned it off, unscrewed the extra tubes and carefully sealed the loop. Next time I will use quick-disconnects or something.

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I need it to be small (120mm Single). Only the cpu will be water cooled, can I just fill a rad with water (without the reservoir)?

BTW, because of you I want the ADII thumb.gif

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post #7 of 11
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Hey guys,
I want to build a quality and compact water loop and was thinking to use the apogee drive II + radiator.
Is it possible to use this without the reservoir? And what rad would you recommend.

Thanks.

Honestly I would avoid the Apogee Drive II, I use it right now and the biggest problem with it is that the pump isn't decoupled, so when at load it makes quiet a bit of noise, and it's performance isn't anything too special either. Your loop is really small, so I'd go with a Phobya UC-1
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16396/ex-blc-1154/Phobya_UC-1_AMD_LT_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Black_Acetal_Edition_-_AMD_10424.html

And a radiator/pump combo. You don't have anything else in your loop, so the flow restriction the waterblock has isn't much of an issue, and it has the best temps out of any other waterblocks on the market. (It just has MASSIVE flow restriction which is why it's not too popular.)
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I would avoid the Apogee Drive II, I use it right now and the biggest problem with it is that the pump isn't decoupled, so when at load it makes quiet a bit of noise
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And a radiator/pump combo.

There aren't any 120mm rad+pump combos.

If he's only cooling a CPU then he can run the pump at 30-40% and it's quiet. I run mine at 40% and can't hear it. Of course I suppose vibration noise depends also on how your motherboard is mounted to the case, and how the standoffs are mounted to the case. I use those little MDPC-X "brainwashers" maybe it helps.
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There aren't any 120mm rad+pump combos.

If he's only cooling a CPU then he can run the pump at 30-40% and it's quiet. I run mine at 40% and can't hear it. Of course I suppose vibration noise depends also on how your motherboard is mounted to the case, and how the standoffs are mounted to the case. I use those little MDPC-X "brainwashers" maybe it helps.

What are you using to slow the pump? Does Speedfan work your board?
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What are you using to slow the pump? Does Speedfan work your board?

Yes Speedfan works.

However, I put the push and pull fans on the 2 motherboard headers and used the spare PWM fan header on the GPU to control the pump. PrecisionX can also do exact profiles. So Speedfan is controlling fans based on CPU core temps, while the pump rpms are determined by how hot the GPU is: 30% if it's not in use, slowly up to 40% if the GPU is running.
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