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Hi Everyone,
I don't usually post I just stalk around and try to learn as much as I can but I hit a wall and need some assistance from the pros and where else to look other than OC.net

Here is my setup
-Intel i7 3770k (Retail if that helps)
-Asus Maximus V Gene *Bios V. 1707*
-G.Skill Trident X 16GB 4x4 2666mhz
-Samsung 840 500 GB
-Thermaltake Toughpower XT 1475W
-Asus Matrix GTX 580

Cooling
-Koolance RP-452X2 Dual Bay w/ Silver spirals
-EK HF Nickle Block w/ Arctic Cooling MX-4
-Swiftech MCP655 Pump @ 4.5 Settings
-XSPC UV RED 1/2, 3/4 Tubing
-Black Ice Extreme Dual 120mm Radiator
-NB Noise Blocker Multiframe Fans Push/Pull config
-Fractal Arc Midi 2 Case
-x3 Fractal Fans
-EK Clear Coolant
-Koolance Flow/Filtered

If I missed anything that'll help and I left out, please let me know

Problem is I can't seem to get past 4.4GHZ on my iB
Here is what I have gotten it stable at Using RealTemp, Prime95 v.27 ? The latest one and zCPUiD

Currently it's running stable 12hr Prime95 pass max temp Core#2 and #3 @83c and Core #1 and Core#4 @ 76c
*Ai Tuner - XMP (doesn't seem to make a difference for me I've tried manual and XMP same result so I left it on XMP)
*BCLK - 100.0
*Turbo Ratio (I'm locked see below)
*Ratio Sync - Enabled
*Core Ratio - 45
*Internal PLL - Enabled
*LLC - Ultra High (75%) I've tried both Extreme (100%) and the results were the same
*Fixed Frequency - 350
*Phase Control - Extreme
*Duty Cycle - T-Probe
*Current Capability - 140%
*CPU Spread - Disabled
*BCLK - Disabled
*Manual Voltage - 1.235v
*PLL 1.6250v
*VCCSA 1.1V
-Under CPU management
*CPU Ratio - 45 (This locks my above mentioning in OC page)
*C1E -Enabled
*C3 - Disabled
*C6 - Disabled
*C State - Disabled

I've tried 1.3v and Upping my PLL to 1.7 (BSOD @ 4.5GHZ) (with LLC on Extreme *100%*)
I've got it able to run Prime95 @ 1.325v but my temps jump to 80-83c in the first 10+mins (Something seems really off here)

My original Goal was 4.8ghz and keep the Prime95 temps 85-88c Which is what I was expecting on the first few attempts till I'm able to lower volts here and there till i can manage low 80'sc for temp at 4.8ghz but that seems like a dream at this point.
I figured might as well give it a try @1.4v I can hit 4.6GHZ but temps are 90-92 on the first 10 mins .. Am I doing something really wrong or do I have a junk chip ? just really unlucky ?
Help this noob please !
Edited by Kyu - 5/22/13 at 12:11pm
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Could check to see if your waterblock is properly installed. That could make a difference I'm sure if it's not seated correctly. Too much TIM can always cause issues too.

Aside from that, your're kind of at the mercy of IvyBridge in all reality. Until you take the dive and Delid your chip. Judging by your voltages, it appears you don't really have that great of a chip. However, understand that IvyBridge can hit temperatures up to 105C. At that point, that's when damage and degradation begins. Where you would actually have something to worry about.

You can get a good idea of the maximum temps you will ever hit at a given clock, by using Intel Burn Test on Very High instead of Prime. It does about 10 passes, and shows you basically what you will be hitting in worst case scenarios. Now if you are in the 90's in that @ 4.6GHz for instance. Really nothing to worry about because real world temperatures will be no where near that.

However, it seems pretty standard with a lot of these Ivy chips that once you start jumping into the 1.4v range, the temps increase vastly. However, you may want to look into the watercooling section to see what other people are getting with similar setups. I'm sure if you look you can find. Custom loops aren't really my specialty.
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It looks like you lost the silicon lottery. On the upside, it'll be a good excuse to upgrade your computer earlier rather than trying to hold onto a great OC-ing old chip.
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It looks like you lost the silicon lottery. On the upside, it'll be a good excuse to upgrade your computer earlier rather than trying to hold onto a great OC-ing old chip.

Yeah looks like it
Tested it last night again doing burn in tests
best result i was able to achieve was 4.4ghz , BCLK 100.1 thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif 1.255v , PLL 1.6500 , LLC Ultra high *75%* i got it 12hr stable @ max 84c
Seeing that, it made me think I could be able to at least do a 4.6ghz @ 1.320v (as starting voltage before i bring it down)PLL 1.7 but nope, From boot everything was delaying zcpuid alone took over a min to load and tried Prime95 and it failed after 7 mins temps hitting 93-95 on the cores.

So my conclusion was, my cooling setup is fine. it's the damn chip or possible the mobo which i doubt it's the mobo.

Looks like I'll be going to Haswell soon if necessary
unless I'm missing something during my OC .. which I still have a feeling I am.. considering I'm a noob.. I keep forgetting to try with turbo turned off.. but I like the Turbo idea wth.gif

Also Checked the chip to check for any burnt marks (surprisingly I have burnt a little area before in the past with C2D chips and still OC'd and ran fine) but it's clean, solid shinny gold platings looks new too lol

And thanks Big Stroonz, I checked it out looks fine. I mean the temps seems normal as in the voltage from 1.255 to 1.320 the temp increase is by 10 give or take so it sounds about right.
I'm thinking it's my chip it's self, I am just one of those really unlucky. I wished I was the other half, the really lucky rare chips
Edited by Kyu - 5/24/13 at 9:56am
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