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Hey everyone,
this will be more or less my second build. My dad needs a new pc for work, so I offered to do the job. He is a real estate agent so he doesn't need anything super powerful, just something pretty quick and reliable. He doesnt use any special programs, just usual word, excelll, remax (guess its a company program) but he does usually does have quite a few pages open at the same time. Since he does all his business on his pc I was thinking of setting him up with raid 1 so that everything is backed up, what do you think about this? or is it better to just have an external hd that he plugs in once a week or so and then he backs up everything there? or whats your idea?
Hi current pc is about 6 years old, lol.. its a gigabite mobo (ga-eg31mf-s2) it even has a floppy disk drive ( i forgot about those, lol) forgot the cpu but its a 2.2ghz and he has a a wooping 2gb of ram....
So I was thinking of something like this

I will use his old case
I will also use his old cd drive
i3 3240
ASUS P8H77-M LE
Corsair DDR3 1600MHz 4GB
Samsung SSD 840 Pro Basic for OS and and basic programs
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1tb (for raid)
PSU Corsair CX430M or using my brothers 3-4 year old 500w (he upgraded) what do you think?

This is my first build from scratch... I consider it my second because i swapped out mobo, ram, gpu and did a full case mod (http://www.overclock.net/t/1374718/need-help-for-upgrade/60) so as for componets I dont know if I chose good things, please let me know your opinion... if you have suggestion to other parts let me know. I need to make sure that I can get all parts here in Switzerland not just warranty issues but also for shipping and import costs.
Thank you in advance for your help
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if it's for office work Raid 1 that 1TB drive,
1TB is more than enough for documents/files etc. Raid 0 and one sector goes bad, say good bye to all his files on those.

Not sure what you really need help on, Looks like you got all the parts covered
Make sure his old CD drive is Sata, Mobo's now a days don't come with the older IDE plug.

Personally for office use and Non gaming I go with AMD's new chips, cheaper , Cooler and more effective IMO.
But that's just me
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like he said raid 1! Also i would highly suggest 8gb Kingston ram, it's come with a true lifetime warranty.plus lots of tabs/pages for internet usually eats up ram. Otherwise your build is perfect.

EDIT: why not just get two 256gb version of that SSD and raid 1 that?
Edited by cdoublejj - 5/22/13 at 1:29pm
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Hey everyone,
this will be more or less my second build. My dad needs a new pc for work, so I offered to do the job. He is a real estate agent so he doesn't need anything super powerful, just something pretty quick and reliable. He doesnt use any special programs, just usual word, excelll, remax (guess its a company program) but he does usually does have quite a few pages open at the same time. Since he does all his business on his pc I was thinking of setting him up with raid 1 so that everything is backed up, what do you think about this? or is it better to just have an external hd that he plugs in once a week or so and then he backs up everything there? or whats your idea?
Hi current pc is about 6 years old, lol.. its a gigabite mobo (ga-eg31mf-s2) it even has a floppy disk drive ( i forgot about those, lol) forgot the cpu but its a 2.2ghz and he has a a wooping 2gb of ram....
So I was thinking of something like this

I will use his old case
I will also use his old cd drive
i3 3240
ASUS P8H77-M LE
Corsair DDR3 1600MHz 4GB
Samsung SSD 840 Pro Basic for OS and and basic programs
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1tb (for raid)
PSU Corsair CX430M or using my brothers 3-4 year old 500w (he upgraded) what do you think?

This is my first build from scratch... I consider it my second because i swapped out mobo, ram, gpu and did a full case mod (http://www.overclock.net/t/1374718/need-help-for-upgrade/60) so as for componets I dont know if I chose good things, please let me know your opinion... if you have suggestion to other parts let me know. I need to make sure that I can get all parts here in Switzerland not just warranty issues but also for shipping and import costs.
Thank you in advance for your help

Or go with a lower SSD for boot.
Honestly for office work, a Samsung 840 Pro won't benefit as much as you think for it's high cost value.
I'd look into a similar in reliability SSD but lower cost at a higher storage capacity. The real world difference will be like 1 or 2 blinks of an eye not worth the extra cost imo
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Why are you using WD black on an office machine?

He would be fine using blue or green much cheaper

are you trying to keep costs down?

What is your budget?

Yes to the external backup drive. I use a WD 1.5tb for my backup
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you think he actually needs more than 4gb of ram? I`ll check prices on the kingston 8gb just to see how much more it is.... As for the 2 ssd in raid Im pretty sure he would fill them up pretty quickly. I havent checked how full his current system is, but i dont think that 256gb will last him verry long, im going to putt al his files from his old pc to his new one and I want to make sure he will have plenty of room for the up coming years (he tends to keep things till the just about cant work anymore... funny thing is its not that he doesnt have the money or he is cheap, he just likes to use things till they dont work anymore. I think its at least a year or so that he said he need a new pc, still hasnt got one..lol)
any ways thanks for the input, really appreciate it smile.gif
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like he said raid 1! Also i would highly suggest 8gb Kingston ram, it's come with a true lifetime warranty.plus lots of tabs/pages for internet usually eats up ram. Otherwise your build is perfect.

EDIT: why not just get two 256gb version of that SSD and raid 1 that?
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if it's for office work Raid 1 that 1TB drive,

1TB is more than enough for documents/files etc. Raid 0 and one sector goes bad, say good bye to all his files on those.

Not sure what you really need help on, Looks like you got all the parts covered
Make sure his old CD drive is Sata, Mobo's now a days don't come with the older IDE plug.

Personally for office use and Non gaming I go with AMD's new chips, cheaper , Cooler and more effective IMO.
But that's just me




Ok sweet, Im new to all this, I have only delt with intel thats mostly why I chose it. Could you give a AMD set up equivalent to this build so I can see price difference. thanks for the input, really appreciate it smile.gif
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Why are you using WD black on an office machine?

He would be fine using blue or green much cheaper

are you trying to keep costs down?

What is your budget?

Yes to the external backup drive. I use a WD 1.5tb for my backup

reading up on internet they seemed the better choice (they say they are faster, idk about that) you think its better to save the 20 bucks.. is there actually a big difference?

as for cost yes and no, priority is that the build will be reliable, quick and that it will last a long time. Most likely it will be on the whole day 5 days a week

yes to external backup... what do you mean? leave raid alone? or also add the external backup?
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AMD FX-6350 Vishera 3.9GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6350FRHKBOX $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113327
ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $64
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Corsair 8gb 1600 ddr3 $60
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Corsair 128gb $130
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WD Green 2tb $99
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Solid business build PC AMD
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reading up on internet they seemed the better choice (they say they are faster, idk about that) you think its better to save the 20 bucks.. is there actually a big difference?

as for cost yes and no, priority is that the build will be reliable, quick and that it will last a long time. Most likely it will be on the whole day 5 days a week

yes to external backup... what do you mean? leave raid alone? or also add the external backup?

I prefter external backup and no RAID.. whatever works for you is the answer. I have never used RAID and have no desire. I store all my media and backups on external HDD. USB 3.0 1.5tb WD external drive is what I use.
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reading up on internet they seemed the better choice (they say they are faster, idk about that) you think its better to save the 20 bucks.. is there actually a big difference?

as for cost yes and no, priority is that the build will be reliable, quick and that it will last a long time. Most likely it will be on the whole day 5 days a week

yes to external backup... what do you mean? leave raid alone? or also add the external backup?

the access times from a blue or green to a black is not that big of a difference, I personally use WD 3TB Greens for my storage.
I wouldn't want to use blacks for storage and backups, I'd go with greens or blues and if it's important files that has to do with financial history I would def recommend Raid 1
The buffer cache is about the same as blacks now a days on power saving drives, the difference is the spin rates I believe.
Unless technology has changed on HD's now.. general rule is faster the mechanical spins the shorter life span.

It'll be painful if files are lost and IRS comes around,

external Storage is ok, I dont like it but that's just my personal preference.
I do how ever use external, Drobo 15TB All WD Greens wireless for home storage, everything in my apartment is connected to it, the blu-ray / living room tv / bedroom tv / my pc, mrs.pc / x3 laptops lol.


It's a easier solution for sharing storage.
For personal don't find it convenient for it's cost.

He won't need more than 4GB for web browsing but i think others were suggesting it because it'll just leave him room to not worry about the future.
if he's staying on 32-bit and he should..
I'd personally just stay with 4GB 1333mhz 25-30 bucks should get one you
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you think he actually needs more than 4gb of ram? I`ll check prices on the kingston 8gb just to see how much more it is.... As for the 2 ssd in raid Im pretty sure he would fill them up pretty quickly. I havent checked how full his current system is, but i dont think that 256gb will last him verry long, im going to putt al his files from his old pc to his new one and I want to make sure he will have plenty of room for the up coming years (he tends to keep things till the just about cant work anymore... funny thing is its not that he doesnt have the money or he is cheap, he just likes to use things till they dont work anymore. I think its at least a year or so that he said he need a new pc, still hasnt got one..lol)
any ways thanks for the input, really appreciate it smile.gif

Ok sweet, Im new to all this, I have only delt with intel thats mostly why I chose it. Could you give a AMD set up equivalent to this build so I can see price difference. thanks for the input, really appreciate it smile.gif

Yup, i had 4gb in my buddy's office pc, he had no troubles tapping out the 4gb, he constantly leaves it on with many tab open at all times, he can tap out the 8gb that's in there.

Also he his records go back over a year, probably several. even with all his neat printer files too i, as well as windows it's self and bunch of other junk, i don't think it goes over 50 gb. i'd grab 2 256gb SSDs throw them in raid 1 and call it good for next 6.5 years. all as your runnning an i3, with an ASUS board, kingston ram and a well reviewed corsair power supply, it could easily last 10 years.

we use the same setup minus corsair PSUs at work and i have seen our customers bring in ten year old computers that we built for them all those years ago, and they will still use for basic office work and and checking email. I'v seen some even older still kicking along, old Pentium 1 machines, built like tanks.

we even had 1 machine that got stuck by lighting and the modem caught fire and burnt the asus mobo... that mobo still worked/s. I have a number of crazy stories like that for asus boards, they can take a lick and keep on ticking.

EDIT: don't forget the new motherboard doesn't have IDE.
Edited by cdoublejj - 5/22/13 at 4:29pm
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