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Oc formula with an lcd screen for 249.99? I'm sold
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Ooh off to compile a list of Z87 mobos and fan control smile.gif

Anyone else notice how AsRock mobos seem to use 3 pin fan headers on almost all chassis fans?
Edited by AlphaC - 5/22/13 at 6:24pm
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Anyone see any asrock matx yet?
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Witch will be the best for oc a low price tag.

The UD3 or UD4 other manufacturers cheap out on something at those price points.
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I really like the looks of the Gigabyte Z87X-OC Force, but dislike on-board fans built into heat-sinks like that (usually more of a pain to service later). The EVGA motherboard looks nice and hoping they get everything squared away this time. However, still waiting to see some proper pictures of the Extreme11/ac and XPower boards.
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Anyone see any asrock matx yet?
ASRock Z87M Extreme4 and ASRock Z87M OC Formula could be found in the article.
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The problem is several things, which involve:
- PCB: matte black costs more vs the "brown" PCB
- heatsink design: ties into key visual and ad concept/campaign
- overall product placement in product stack, entry to enthusiast

Making a blacked out MB is easy. Making a blacked out MB and selling your projected volume and making a profit and meeting all the demands of the enthusiast for cheaper than what your BOM is, is hard. And most people on forums don't take this into consideration when saying "I want this!"

-alex

I agree 100% however, they could resolve that issue by accepting preorders for special edition motherboards creating far more demand. Many companies due this as I imagine you are aware so they can see if demand will meet minimum production requirements and make a decision.

Prime example, EK thinkcell. They let the customers determine the outcome of there product as well as openly accepting ideas and input on current/ future designs.
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I agree 100% however, they could resolve that issue by accepting preorders for special edition motherboards creating far more demand. Many companies due this as I imagine you are aware so they can see if demand will meet minimum production requirements and make a decision.

Prime example, EK thinkcell. They let the customers determine the outcome of there product as well as openly accepting ideas and input on current/ future designs.

Preorders? OK.

Let's start preorders 4-6 months ahead of time for the following timeline:

- 3-4 weeks specing out product
- 1-2 weeks manufacturing ES
- 2-4 weeks validation
- 3-6 weeks mass production

Oh, during this entire time, the competition will come out with something "better" without public disclosure and no one will buy the preordered product.

If we can all "preorder" what we want, what's the point of companies making their own product? What's the point of driving innovation? The whole point of product competition is that it pushes every company to innovate and do better.

EK is overly simplistic and not accurate because they are making something that has no competition, and their MOQ/time to market is a lot less/smaller than a motherboard maker. Plus, they don't have to source ANYTHING other than raw material and machinery (which they should always have regardless of production.)

But I'm sure the enthusiast end user knows how to run this process better than a manufacturer.

-alex
post #28 of 124
Thank god Gigabyte is finally not using Realteks crappy ethernet and giving us Intel NICs. Haswell might not be much of a CPU upgrade but the platform looks like it's been improved a lot since Z77.
    
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I wanna see more in depth bios coverage, Asus and Gigabyte both look very good.

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is that the coated asrock boards? First time I have seen a full picture of them. Maybe they will sell with and without?

Anyways nice to see a place with all the boards in one place.

I also really like the shade of gold that ECS used: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6970/2%20ECS%20Z87H3-A2X%20Golden.png
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