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I live in Charlotte, its just a couple hours down 85. Wife has wanted to go see ATL for awhile now. This may be a good excuse.
yea better come before it turns into an oven.
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Pcie 3.0 X4 is plenty. Even 2.0 X4 is enough

Thats what I thought and most people say, then a few people will make just enough argument to make me want to spend more on a PLX board.

Using the PCIe 2.0 x4 cripples some multi-GPU setups:



Using 3770K, moving from PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 to PCIe 3.0 x16 + PCIe 2.0 x4 causes a drop from 162.05 FPS to 136.16 FPS.
Using a PLX to get PCIe 3.0 x16/x16, on a dual GPU setup, is slightly over the x8/x8.

When you move to three GPUs, the PCIe 3.0 x8/x4/x4 and the PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 + PCIe 2.0 x4 setup difference is even more.



192.34 FPS - Gigabyte G1.Sniper 3: PCIe 3.0 x16/x8/x8 via PLX
183.51 FPS - Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H: PCIe 3.0 x8/x4/x4
134.08 FPS - ASRock Z77 OC Formula: PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 + PCIe 2.0 x4

Taken from Choosing a Gaming CPU: Single + Multi-GPU at 1440p, April 2013 and AT's recent gaming motherboard reviews smile.gif
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Using the PCIe 2.0 x4 cripples some multi-GPU setups:



Using 3770K, moving from PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 to PCIe 3.0 x16 + PCIe 2.0 x4 causes a drop from 162.05 FPS to 136.16 FPS.
Using a PLX to get PCIe 3.0 x16/x16, on a dual GPU setup, is slightly over the x8/x8.

When you move to three GPUs, the PCIe 3.0 x8/x4/x4 and the PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 + PCIe 2.0 x4 setup difference is even more.



192.34 FPS - Gigabyte G1.Sniper 3: PCIe 3.0 x16/x8/x8 via PLX
183.51 FPS - Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H: PCIe 3.0 x8/x4/x4
134.08 FPS - ASRock Z77 OC Formula: PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 + PCIe 2.0 x4

Taken from Choosing a Gaming CPU: Single + Multi-GPU at 1440p, April 2013 and AT's recent gaming motherboard reviews smile.gif

Only problem with that is that maybe 1% game at 1440P. The majority of us are at 1080
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LCD screen is a nice addition. With an EK full board block that'll be an attractive and powerful motherboard.

Still can't get over how good the MSI MPower looks though. Want to see the XPower and it's features. Should be even better. Very strong showings from ASUS, Gigabyte, Asrock and MSI.
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post #75 of 124
PCI-E 2.0 x4 is to going to be a performance bottleneck. You need at least PCI-E 2.0 x8 or PCI-E 3.0 x4, even then you'll see a small performance hit due to the bottleneck. wink.gif
    
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Just wish we were seeing more mITX boards.
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Only problem with that is that maybe 1% game at 1440P. The majority of us are at 1080

For the gamers that actually worry about PCIe lanes, they're going to be running multiple cards. Chances are the rest of the rig is going to have a bit more money spent on it as well - if you're using two high end cards and still at 1080p there's very few games worth playing where that 2nd or 3rd card is going to make a difference. You'd be better off with a cheap Korean 1440p (which doesn't cost a lot) or a multi-monitor setup with two or three 1080p monitors. Last time at the iSeries LAN, there were plenty of 1440p gamers there, and almost all of them had better-than-average systems.

Looking at the Steam Hardware Survey:

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey



30.73% of people at 1080p

2.91 + 0.1 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.87 + 0.16 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.01 + 0.06 + 0.01 = 4.16% of people in the survey game at higher than 1080p

At any one time there's 4.6 million gamers on steam - if say they were representative of the survey, then that's almost 200,000 gamers using resolutions higher than 1080p currently on Steam.

The fact still remains:
- if you're running multiple cards, it can pay dividends to make sure you've got a board that will do it properly,
- otherwise you might as well through any potential for decent scaling out the window,
- especially when using >1080P or multi-monitor setups.

If you're using a single card in an x4 slot, then I'd be interested in knowing what other cards you're running (RAID et al) in the normal PEG slots.
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Which micro atx board do you guys think would be the best?
I was thinking of either getting ASUS TUF Gryphon Z87, ASUS ROG Maximus VI Gene, or the Gigabyte G1.Sniper M5.
I currently have a 7970 and plan on getting a ASUS Xonar DGX for audio.
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I hate the new gold hype -_-
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Fan on a MB? Gotta be kidding.
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