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If you just plan to game at 1440p at around 60fps, you should be fine with Xfire 7950s. I guess it really depends on what games you plan to play in the future and at what settings. Remember, just because it is under 60fps doesn't mean it is unplayable. Also remember that with SLI GTX 780s, you're paying at least twice as much (assuming each card goes around $600-700USD) for a 10-20% performance improvement (I don't know exactly how much of an improvement it might be, but it probably is no where near a 100% performance improvement that you are paying for.)

Hmmm
I do hope all the pricing works out so I can buy both and compare. Microstutter talk scares me, but if it is a non issue for me I could easily be swayed to save some money and go that route. Like for the RIGHT NOW I kind of lean towards the 7950's (especially if the new upcoming drivers eliminate microstutter) but when I start thinking over the next two years I have a hunch that the 780 will hold up better, and in 2 years time maybe the 780 will drop enough that SLI would make sense and breath more life into the setup maybe carry it for another year, maybe even two.

Thats all speculation on my part though and why this decision is so hard for me. Bottom line I dont want to have to upgrade again in about 2 years ( maybe 1.5 if somehow graphic needs take a quantum leap). I know nobody has a gaming crystal ball but based off specs and performance Im trying to weuigh which option looks better in the long run . Not futureproofing, doesn't exist, but at least hold up respectable framerates (over 30 fps) at that resolution for 2 years







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Get a single HD 7950 now. get the second one after the frame pacing driver arrives in July. if you want more performance now go for GTX 780.

Yeah I think it would bother me that I couldn't play the games I want to play, at the settings I want, right now. Single 7970 and single 670 struggled with the heavy ENB and texture mods I like to use on skyrim for instance. And i like most of the highest settings for metro last light. Would likely get by on everything else I play but those are also the 2 games Im into most at the moment and can be demanding at 1440p. Not to mention if I did that its no telling if the same model I want will still be available - I'm really adamant about venting out the back of my case and that particular 7950 is supposed to have a better than reference blower style cooler.
Edited by newone757 - 5/22/13 at 9:16pm
   
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If you're too concerned with heat, maybe consider watercooling those 670s, or if you want, 7950s instead? Getting 7950s would just give you the same amount of heat as those 670s. I just couldn't justify the $650 of 780. You would loose a considerable amount of performance going from 670 SLIs to a 780. I assume that if you decide to get a 780, you will be selling your 670s to fund for it. If that's the case, selling 670s for lets say $300 each, then add $50+ to get the 780 would mean you would spend more money for a downgrade in exchange for the benefits of a single card PC. I'm all about having sufficient performance for the best price kind of guy, so my advice is to stick to your 670s or get 7950s and maybe consider watercooling in the future.
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If you're too concerned with heat, maybe consider watercooling those 670s, or if you want, 7950s instead? Getting 7950s would just give you the same amount of heat as those 670s. I just couldn't justify the $650 of 780. You would loose a considerable amount of performance going from 670 SLIs to a 780. I assume that if you decide to get a 780, you will be selling your 670s to fund for it. If that's the case, selling 670s for lets say $300 each, then add $50+ to get the 780 would mean you would spend more money for a downgrade in exchange for the benefits of a single card PC. I'm all about having sufficient performance for the best price kind of guy, so my advice is to stick to your 670s or get 7950s and maybe consider watercooling in the future.

Not interested in watercooling at the moment. Scared to throw more money into the pit lol. The only SLI tests Ive seen of these particular 7950 in SLI had temps in 60 and low 70's. But not only that I just feel that I need to move to blower style and push some of this heat out of my case. It was fine with 1 card but SLI with open coolers just running too hot and/or loud because its hot.

670's are still within return window. So I am returning and getting my $960 back (4gb models).

I am a little worried about the performance hit too going from SLI to the 780 but Im hoping it will still be powerful enough to at least pull fps in the 40's in games that I'm Vsynced at 60 fps with now. Im sure besides maybe my heavy skyrim ENB and metro LL it shouldn't be far fetched it will pull 60 fps or close in the others (borderlands 2, Bioshock infinite, maybe Far Cry 3 - haven't decided if Im going to play or not) on a single 1440p screen. No desire whatsoever for multi-screen gaming in the future
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Not interested in watercooling at the moment. Scared to throw more money into the pit lol. The only SLI tests Ive seen of these particular 7950 in SLI had temps in 60 and low 70's. But not only that I just feel that I need to move to blower style and push some of this heat out of my case. It was fine with 1 card but SLI with open coolers just running too hot and/or loud because its hot.

670's are still within return window. So I am returning and getting my $960 back (4gb models).

I am a little worried about the performance hit too going from SLI to the 780 but Im hoping it will still be powerful enough to at least pull fps in the 40's in games that I'm Vsynced at 60 fps with now. Im sure besides maybe my heavy skyrim ENB and metro LL it shouldn't be far fetched it will pull 60 fps or close in the others (borderlands 2, Bioshock infinite, maybe Far Cry 3 - haven't decided if Im going to play or not) on a single 1440p screen. No desire whatsoever for multi-screen gaming in the future

Cool! Then my vote goes to 7950 cf. How about these non ref blower style 7950s from HIS?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161420
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Not interested in watercooling at the moment. Scared to throw more money into the pit lol. The only SLI tests Ive seen of these particular 7950 in SLI had temps in 60 and low 70's. But not only that I just feel that I need to move to blower style and push some of this heat out of my case. It was fine with 1 card but SLI with open coolers just running too hot and/or loud because its hot.

670's are still within return window. So I am returning and getting my $960 back (4gb models).

I am a little worried about the performance hit too going from SLI to the 780 but Im hoping it will still be powerful enough to at least pull fps in the 40's in games that I'm Vsynced at 60 fps with now. Im sure besides maybe my heavy skyrim ENB and metro LL it shouldn't be far fetched it will pull 60 fps or close in the others (borderlands 2, Bioshock infinite, maybe Far Cry 3 - haven't decided if Im going to play or not) on a single 1440p screen. No desire whatsoever for multi-screen gaming in the future

Cool! Then my vote goes to 7950 cf. How about these non ref blower style 7950s from HIS?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161420

The exact ones I was planning on getting. We'll see tomorrow. If 780 is $650 ill get one and these and compare for everybody. If its over $650 ill just grab the 7950's
   
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The exact ones I was planning on getting. We'll see tomorrow. If 780 is $650 ill get one and these and compare for everybody. If its over $650 ill just grab the 7950's
Doh! doh.gif My bad didn't click your link when I first saw your thread hehe.
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Wow, this will be an interesting showdown. I wonder what games/software you will be benchmarking these on. I'm guessing the 7950's will win, provided they have the latest drivers. I have summed up the advantages and disadvantages of the different setups.

7950 Crossfire

Pros
  • Better value ($70 cheaper)
  • Performs on par or better than a single GTX 780

Cons

  • Older (will become outdated sooner)
  • Not as attractive as a GTX 780
  • All PCI-E X16 slots will be filled, removing any upgradeable route

Single GTX 780

Pros

  • Performs on par or better than crossfire 7950s
  • Better temperatures
  • Looks better aesthetically
  • Beats a single 7950 by 30-50%
  • Hardware PhysX and CUDA
  • Only takes up one PCI-E X16 slot, allowing the upgrade of a second graphics card

Cons
  • Expensive ($650, $70 more expensive than 7950s in crossfire)
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i got this chart from the news section this morning . . .



my single 7950 got P11000 in 3M11 and P40000 in 3MV. I don't think a single 780 can oc so much to overtake a crossfired 7950 at stock. my 7950 was a bad oc'er but those runs where not its max.
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Ordered the 780. Did not order the 7950's. There is still time though, they are on sale until l the 27th. Ill see how the 780 performs for me personally and if I'm not happy I'll order the 7950's and do some comparisons for everybody. I keep returning stuff to newegg I dont want them to start denying me unless I don't have a choice lol.

Im guessing some of my games will run a little better than a couple of benches Ive seen as I dont use any AA at my resolution, I dont notice a difference unless its like 16x, and not enough to warrant the performance hit so we will see.


Thanks everybody for contributing to the discussion. I will update when it gets in (shoprunner 2 day shipping)
   
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