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MoBo suggestion for an i5 3570k using a Phanteks TC14PE Cooler?

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Hello folks. Looking to get a Mobo for the aforementioned components up there, and in a bit of a bind as to which one to get. I've perused through neweggs stock of boards and whittled down a number of them based on various criteria, but wanted to see what the board suggests, as well as further questions.

What i'm generally looking for:
Nothing over $300. That's just waay to much, and that price range is generally reserved for boards with tons of PCI-e 3.0's and other unneeded features.

Not interested in cheap boards, either(say sub $150 boards); guess you can say i'm looking at the middle to high end. I'll be OC'ing the CPU as far as I can get it stable, and want a good board that can handle that kind of power. Considering this is primarily a gaming rig, RAM OCing is far from a priority, as it has little effect there. As long as it can handle at least 1600MHz, thats good.

1-3 PCI-E 3.0 slots. Preferably 2, but if a considerably better quality board has three, so be it. I prefer to stick with one, Good GPU, but at least want basic SLI capability if I ever decide to make use of it instead. It would be nearly pointless to get a second 560ti 2gb GPU since i'm already getting near the 2GB limit in some cases, but when I upgrade to a better, 3-4GB card, i might sli it when the price drops and skip a generation.

Enough space for SLI and my gargantuan Phanteks cooler. See, as I was browsing NewEgg, the M3 Sniper and Max. Gene caught my eye, having most of what i'm looking for. However, they just look like they would be exceedingly cramped in any decent SLI setup with that cooler. I've heard it said that it's best to get a board that has a PCI-e x1 slot above the 3.0 slot as that guarantees good clearance for this cooler. I've also 'heard' that mATX's generally run hotter and arn't as good for OCing due to the lesser power phases(6's and 8's compared to 12's and 16's for bigger boards).

Any help is appreciated biggrin.gif
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GIGABYTE G1.Sniper 3 being EATX has plenty of room
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128552

but i think you could go with a Gigabyte Z77X-UP5 which are great boards with high end VRM setup
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128559
even the UP4

or even the Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128545

MSI Z77 Mpower is another quality board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130660

Asus P8Z77-V or pro/delux version even the V formula

rember with Phases it is quality over quantity which all the above have decent VRM/Phase set up with the UP4/5 has industry leading
Edited by stubass - 5/22/13 at 6:27pm
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post #3 of 5
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Originally Posted by stubass View Post

GIGABYTE G1.Sniper 3 being EATX has plenty of room
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128552

but i think you could go with a Gigabyte Z77X-UP5 which are great boards with high end VRM setup
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128559
even the UP4

or even the Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128545

MSI Z77 Mpower is another quality board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130660

Asus P8Z77-V or pro/delux version even the V formula

rember with Phases it is quality over quantity which all the above have decent VRM/Phase set up with the UP4/5 has industry leading

From what I can tell any ATX/eATX board should accomodate it, IIRC mATX boards with a phanteks in sli have the fan clips touching the back of the top card and heat is a big issue.
I've used this to help compare boards somewhat: http://sinhardware.com/images/vrm.jpg

All of those boards you suggested were the ones that remained after I weeded through the crap on newegg biggrin.gif

According to that image though, all of them get the same basic 'rating' by his system(except the Formula) What exactly makes the UP5 industry leading? What makes the setup 'high-end', sheer number of True Phases or is there more to look for? For instance, the UD5H has the same phase setup as UP4 but includes a 'doubler' for 12 'phases'. New to this sort of thing.

I had been looking at the UP5, it seems to have the highest quality parts out of the bunch I have left on the excel sheet I made, and it isn't That expensive.
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sinshardware has a really good article explaining doublers etc which explains the inner workings of the power delivery system for your CPU better than i can.

When i say boards like the UP5 have industry leading components, i mean the IR3550 mosfets and the inductors are the highest quality out thier ATM.

Anyway, any of the boards mentioned will not hold you back when it comes to overclocking your CPU
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When i say boards like the UP5 have industry leading components, i mean the IR3550 mosfets and the inductors are the highest quality out thier ATM.

That's what sins chart indicated to me =) Only other one on there that had 4 in those 2 departments ratings were the Asrock OC formula, using ir3598's, NEXFET's and the 28A alloy inductor used in Asus' Maximus series. I'm leery of them though. After hearing about the shenanigans they pulled on the Extreme 4 and all the voltage reporting and general QC issues, as well as the oft nonsensical manufacturer responses on Newegg, im of the mind to play it safe and avoid them.

You had mentinoed MSI... which brings something to mind, the whole analog/digital debate. All the MSI boards are technically analog. Would this make them worse for my intended applications compared to full-digital? There's Asus and Giga offerings that seem to match them rather closely, main kicker being that MSI is analog and they are digital. Kicking analogs to the curb would drop me down to 5 boards to choose from biggrin.gif

I tried looking for the described article on sins, didn't come across anything definitively, though it is talked about somewhat in all reviews, so, they tell you a good bit.
Edited by Garzhad - 5/22/13 at 9:36pm
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