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320.18 is what was on NVIDIA's FTP press server and that's what we were told to use in our reviews.

woot! there it is....
    
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I know, I followed most of those discussions. Even with an aftermarket BIOS hack you get stuck at 1200mhz roughly and some throttling normally, while being louder and hotter than a 780. A 780 already in a "clueless reviewer's hands" as you keep saying, is already hitting 1254mhz with no BIOS hack yet available, which will certainly only help it OC even higher. So yes, OC to OC they do match from ALL available data in reviews, and soon enough it'll be the case in OCN enthusiasts' hands as well. Here's the 1254mhz review as a source: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_sc_acx_review,26.html The Titan just isn't a better product at this point in time, it's the same thing with more VRAM. That doesn't diminish the 780 & Titan being awesome, but advising people that the Titan is 10, 15% better is foolhardy.

Up-to.

Their card was throttling and thus wasn't at 1254MHz.

The thing is that as I said, you once again don't understand the issue here. Titan's will throttle quicker on the stock bios due to temp and power limits. This will result in the performance gap being smaller than it will be in the hands of people who can make the cards not throttle. It will also result in the Titan seeing bigger benefits from custom BIOSes.

Also a 1250MHz 780 only has a 2% higher OC than a 1200MHz titan. So that'd make the perf difference, what 8%? Ignoring the fact that clocks don't scale linearly of course... Even if the clocks did scale linearly you would need to have a 780 clocked 13% higher (that's the clock for clock difference) than a Titan in order to match it. That's a 1356MHz 780 To match a 1200MHz titan.

The cards are 10% from each other at stock settings with the 780 clocked higher. The only foolhardy thing to say here is that they will match Titans when both are OC'd properly. Benches by end users will prove this.
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Goldentiger is on fire...he's backing it up every angle you throw at him!

Only problem is that he doesn't know what he's talking about and just quotes useless reviews that are showing how horrible the stock fan profiles are with the stock bios.
 
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New review of EVGA ACX. The cooler doesn't look that impressive here. Want to see DCII



http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/55725-evga-geforce-gtx-780-superclocked-acx/?page=11&key=1369403657

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Goldentiger is on fire...he's backing it up every angle you throw at him!

It doen´t matter how good those arguments are. AFAIK world records are on the TITAN´s side. As long as we don´t see 780s matching, or even breaking those world records, arguing that 780s OCed are equal to TITANs OCed is just pure wishful thinking.

It´s not hard math. It´s the same chip, but nerfed. It can´t get faster. There are hardware limits. Temps and noise don´t really matter when you are on water, or if you can get the same performance on air with much lower clocks.
post #1205 of 2543
The argument is same as HD 7950 being as fast as HD 7970. Dream on boys. From what i have seen 90% of HD 7970 always OC more then HD 7950. Titan probably has same effect.
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Up-to.

Their card was throttling and thus wasn't at 1254MHz.

The thing is that as I said, you once again don't understand the issue here. Titan's will throttle quicker on the stock bios due to temp and power limits. This will result in the performance gap being smaller than it will be in the hands of people who can make the cards not throttle. It will also result in the Titan seeing bigger benefits from custom BIOSes.

Also a 1250MHz 780 only has a 2% higher OC than a 1200MHz titan. So that'd make the perf difference, what 8%? Ignoring the fact that clocks don't scale linearly of course... Even if the clocks did scale linearly you would need to have a 780 clocked 13% higher (that's the clock for clock difference) than a Titan in order to match it. That's a 1356MHz 780 To match a 1200MHz titan.

The cards are 10% from each other at stock settings with the 780 clocked higher. The only foolhardy thing to say here is that they will match Titans when both are OC'd properly. Benches by end users will prove this.
Only problem is that he doesn't know what he's talking about and just quotes useless reviews that are showing how horrible the stock fan profiles are with the stock bios.

In weeks time when things settle down, we will see all kinds of benchmark from the owners here on ocn, then we get real the feel between the 2 gpu....Karlito, are you ready with your unigine Valley?
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I mean the whole argument is silly. At stock settings the difference between them is around 10%. The 780 has around 3% faster boost clocks.

In what possible universe can you close that gap when both cards are OC'd? In order for that to happen you'd need something above perfect clock scaling which just doesn't happen.

And before someone quotes a review, they're only showing throttling cards. We're talking about units that when in the hands of OCNers run at their max boost 100% of the time.
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The argument is same as HD 7950 being as fast as HD 7970. Dream on boys. From what i have seen 90% of HD 7970 always OC more then HD 7950. Titan probably has same effect.

my 7950's oc much better than yours. smile.gif 1200/1800 @1.250 tongue.gif
    
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my 7950's oc much better than yours. smile.gif 1200/1800 @1.250 tongue.gif

Mine does 1250Mhz/1875Mhz @ 1.3v but dont bother with the heat it dumps so no it does not.
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