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Thanks, its for a second rig that I am building, (Blue Haze).

I will probably sell that rig and it will sell fast I think, especially looking at the GTX 780 performance.

Price / Performance. The GTX 780 is beating the GTX 680. That is nice. But this graph will most likely change soon with more results.


Edited by KaRLiToS - 5/25/13 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by Regent Square View Post

@2010Rig, I am not an expert at how the drivers work but I know for sure that when 580 was receiving driver updates with boosts in games, the scenario being: 580-10% in X game, this translates to 570 receiving 5-6% or even less. Tested by me. What I am saying is 780 should receive the most out of drivers and be on the 1st place rather then 2nd.

It could be a number of things, like settings they used. 5-6% may be 1-3 FPS in reality. They also use the term "up to"...

You really have to read release notes for example:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win8-win7-winvista-64bit-320.18-whql-driver.html

New in GeForce R320 Drivers

Performance Boost – Increases performance by up to 20% for GeForce 400/500/600 series GPUs in several PC games vs. GeForce 314.22 WHQL-certified drivers. Results will vary depending on your GPU and system configuration. Here is one example of measured gains:

GeForce GTX 660:
Up to 20% in Dirt: Showdown

NVIDIA will often use the example that shows the most gains.

The reason why AMD saw a lot of gains with their drivers in the last year, is because GCN is a NEW architecture, they've been able to tweak and optimize, and therefore saw big gains.

Kepler is a distilled Fermi, it's a pretty established and mature architecture which is why we haven't seen as big of gains as what AMD has accomplished.

Any optimizations they make in new drivers apply to all Kepler cards. That's why you shouldn't expect Titan specific drivers for example.
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1)There will be soon enough, 6-8 weeks as Nvidia tried to charge the most for now. Manufactures will lower it down the line as it is out of reach for the majority. 50$ drop.

2) Being discussed for 2 pages, But 580/570 are an example.
Do you mean price drop like the ones that the Titan and 690 had?,...........thumb.gifthumb.gif
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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

It could be a number of things, like settings they used. 5-6% may be 1-3 FPS in reality. They also use the term "up to"...

You really have to read release notes for example:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win8-win7-winvista-64bit-320.18-whql-driver.html

New in GeForce R320 Drivers

Performance Boost – Increases performance by up to 20% for GeForce 400/500/600 series GPUs in several PC games vs. GeForce 314.22 WHQL-certified drivers. Results will vary depending on your GPU and system configuration. Here is one example of measured gains:

GeForce GTX 660:
Up to 20% in Dirt: Showdown

NVIDIA will often use the example that shows the most gains.

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Kepler is a distilled Fermi, it's a pretty established and mature architecture which is why we haven't seen as big of gains as what AMD has accomplished.

Any optimizations they make in new drivers apply to all Kepler cards. That's why you shouldn't expect Titan specific drivers for example.


You hold the point so let it be as you described. Still hoping for a even for small bits though!
post #1495 of 2543
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Originally Posted by carlhil2 View Post

Do you mean price drop like the ones that the Titan and 690 had?,...........thumb.gifthumb.gif

Sorry, I don't know what were the drops on these cards. But do expect up to 50$ price drop.
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Originally Posted by Regent Square View Post

Sorry, I don't know what were the drops on these cards. But do expect up to 50$ price drop.

He was being sarcastic. smile.gif

The ASUS Titan actually went up $20 on NewEgg.

Don't expect price drops on the 780.
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Sorry, I don't know what were the drops on these cards. But do expect up to 50$ price drop.

Why? For what reason? A titan cost 1k and if you compare the 780 with the titan its cheap when the performance difference is at most 10%. Now if you didint have a titan on the market probably you should expect a price drop after 3-4 months
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Guys, I am still confused, this review says the OCed EVGA ACX hit 350w ""Power consumption rose closer to 350 watts when playing Far Cry 3 with the overclock in place"

350w is more then 6% higher then 250w. Will I be fine overclocking this card without a bios flash? Are the reviews all using the 106% max Power and default max votlage ( 1.212v) for thier OC sections? can someone please clarify before I order
post #1499 of 2543
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Originally Posted by Blackops_2 View Post

You can look at it that way but if you had the money and wanted the performance are you going to limit yourself for the greater good of the consumer? Most wouldn't, hell i wouldn't. If i had 1950$ to drop on three 780s they'd be here. 2010rig summed it up perfectly no competition is the reason we're seeing this. It's the reason the CPU market is the way it is and we haven't seen mainstream hexa-cores, no competition..
in the long run, doing so would be self serving as well

holding off, letting the market adjust, then spending $1950 would result in more performance

unfortunately people are short sighted slaves to the newest hardware

a lot of people on OCN remind me of breast enlargement addicts
post #1500 of 2543
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Originally Posted by maneil99 View Post

Guys, I am still confused, this review says the OCed EVGA ACX hit 350w ""Power consumption rose closer to 350 watts when playing Far Cry 3 with the overclock in place"

350w is more then 6% higher then 250w. Will I be fine overclocking this card without a bios flash? Are the reviews all using the 106% max Power and default max votlage ( 1.212v) for thier OC sections? can someone please clarify before I order

This is bugged. Just wait till proper drivers show up. If you wanna overclock a card without a bios flash, 1.2v is your limit but even if you do flash bios, tdp becomes a stopping power. Reviews should specify the voltage.

Why would you order now? Wait a bit till everything settles down.
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