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post #1601 of 2543
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Originally Posted by bencher View Post

Same can be said about titan. If gtx 780 isn't an upgrade, same for titan. Both are in the same ball park. One is $300 cheaper.

Very true, unless you are some how vram limited and need the 6GB Titan offers.
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post #1602 of 2543
I can sell my 680s and get the 780s, I can get at least $700 for my cards so it will be $600 upgrade , so tenting biggrin.gif
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post #1603 of 2543
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Maybe so, but I just have this sneaky suspicion that 780 are going to be better overclockers overall. Only way they wouldn't be is if Nvidia purposely gimped them to less voltage, but that does not appear to be the case.

They're not though, so far. Looks to me like 780 owners are faring almost exactly the same as Titan owners when OCing with the majority seeing stability around 1175-1215MHz. At those clocks Titan is still going to be faster even if they are Lightning or Classified 780's. Not being able to go over 1212mV will limit the 780's to basically the same clocks as Titan regardless of the better power delivery of the non-reference cards (now hard modded the non-reference 780's will destroy stock Titans but that's a very different story).

We'll have a better idea of what's what as more 780 numbers start trickling in...
post #1604 of 2543
Honestly I do not think anyone is going to be happy either way.

The 780 leans more towards the Titan in performance therefore the price is ~$650 rather than ~$550 we have seen before. If the performance gap was smaller between the 680 and 780 but was priced $100 lower than people would be complaining about the performance and that there was not much justification to upgrade from a 680. With the performance closer to the Titan this makes me, someone with a 580 contemplating SLI 580s or buying a single 780, actually considering the 780 more because of its performance. With the price of the 780, it isn't to low that it completely negates the Titan and it isn't to high for the performance that it provides over previous generation cards. I'd say Nvidia did a good job with its pricing.
post #1605 of 2543
Marketing strategy by Nvidia at it's best.....

same architecture for 1+ years = people are hungry for something powerfull...

frame rate explosion issue againts amd coupled with no competiton from amd = lets make a powerfull gpu from the same architecture and sell it for 1k (test the market) no competetion + hungry people = win win!!!! (nvidia salivating for profit)

Now that our titan is successfull and beat out 690 on sale, lets put out a junior titan same chip but 10% slower than titan and since there's no competition lets price it $650.00 and I bet you it's still going to sell because people will figure it out that overall price/perf is better than titan. Think about it, people are not letting go of their 7970 because of its 3g vram and 384 bit bus, people will let go of their 670/680 because it only have 256 bus.

Now lets present 780 with 3 gb vram and 384 bit bus and 20% plus faster than 7970/680. We will be hitting 2 birds in one stone. For those people with gpu lesser than 7970/680, 780 is the perfect upgrade for them this year! Now, nvidia have 3 potential consumer buying the gtx 780, a brilliant strategy indeed!
    
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post #1606 of 2543
You forgot the fact that the 780 is more aimed at Fermi owners. tongue.gif

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post #1607 of 2543
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You forgot the fact that the 780 is more aimed at Fermi owners. tongue.gif

still 40% + is pretty decent upgrade imo
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post #1608 of 2543
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Depending on the card you get, GeForce GTX 780’s 12 SMX blocks are either spread between four or five Graphics Processing Clusters. Composed of 7.1 billion transistors, GK110 is a massive chip. Manufacturing it isn’t easy. And along the way, different parts of it show up with defects. So, Nvidia can’t guarantee the exact configuration of each GeForce GTX 780’s GK110. It’ll only say that, across the GPU, 12 SMXes are enabled.

Does this mean we might have another unlockable card like the GTX465?
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Whats interesting to me is that just maybe, the next series might have a 512bit/8GB VRAM GPU.
Just like the 512bit GTX 280...and call it a GTX 880 biggrin.gif
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Honestly I do not think anyone is going to be happy either way.

The 780 leans more towards the Titan in performance therefore the price is ~$650 rather than ~$550 we have seen before. If the performance gap was smaller between the 680 and 780 but was priced $100 lower than people would be complaining about the performance and that there was not much justification to upgrade from a 680. With the performance closer to the Titan this makes me, someone with a 580 contemplating SLI 580s or buying a single 780, actually considering the 780 more because of its performance. With the price of the 780, it isn't to low that it completely negates the Titan and it isn't to high for the performance that it provides over previous generation cards. I'd say Nvidia did a good job with its pricing.

TBH why wouldn't it negate the TITAN? You are paying $350 more for a card that loses @ stock to a superclocked 780. Unless you definitely need 6GB RAM for 3x1440/1600 surround, there's no way you can justify paying $350 premium for an only ~10% faster card.

Here's how I justify purchasing a TITAN: 1) because it launched first, 2) because I could buy it, and 3) because the performance gap was quite big comparing to the GTX 680.

So the 780 offers 2 and 3 but for $350 less. TITAN market is dead. You gotta be a dupe to pay $350 more for it, unless you really need to be a benchmark king, or you really need it for ultra res surround.

In my case, it wasn't so bad. I paid full price only for the first TITAN, and bought the second on a discount for only $600 (had a $400 bonus on a local store). I sold the $150 F2P bundles @ ebay, and managed to get about $139 back (I spent a few codes on Hawken and Planetside 2). So, in essence, I spent $1461 for my sli TITANs (excluding taxes). So that's $161 more for I think ~20% more performance than SLI 780s (not sure about these numbers though).
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