Originally Posted by y2kcamaross
Originally Posted by tpi2007
Taking into consideration that AMD released the HD 7790 with more cores than the HD 7770 and yet only uses a trivial amount more power while performing considerably better, I'd say that even with all the compute prowess (that is also a burden on TDP), AMD can certainly release a card to compete with the GTX 780 if they want. They already have the 3 GB of VRAM on a 384-bit bus at 6 Ghz, the only increase in power consumption will come from the added cores (and then somewhat mitigated by an improved 28nm process and tweaks to the architecture).
I would personally wait before making a decision. If AMD would release a new top of the line together with a beta version of their frame pacing drivers, Nvidia would have serious competition. Of course this is all wishful thinking, according to the latest information AMD is supposed to only release the new generation of cards later in the year. Guess Nvidia will have the summer for themselves.
you want people to wait 2-3 months to see if MAYBE amd announces something, that's logical. Why not just wait 7 or 8 months, or a year, then maybe they'll have something
I don't want people to do anything, it's my opinion... on wishful thinking that they might bundle the beta drivers with some sort of surprise, the drivers are supposed to be released next month or in July, but yes, wishful thinking like I said, sorry I didn't make it more clear on what I meant exactly.
But yeah, like mcg75 and 2010rig said, this is a duopoly, so yeah, this kind of situation is likely to keep happening.
But I just can't help to feel disappointed that by comparing this card to the Titan, Nvidia sure does make it sound like a good deal based on price, as this means we are going back to 2008's GTX 280' price.
Back in late 2010, when Nvidia released the GTX 580, you got more cores, more GPU speed and memory speed and a slightly lower TDP compared to the GTX 480, all on the same process, thanks to not only the advancements in the manufacturing technology but also some architectural tweaks, and the price was the same.
Now you are getting more cores, more power consumption, the same VRAM and memory channels AMD has had in their top of the line since the beginning of last year, and less compute performance than the GTX 580, all for more money.
So, in essence, compared to the GTX 480 -> GTX 580, in the GTX 680 -> GTX 780 comparison you're getting more of a lot of things, including TDP, some of which were due last year (the GTX 680 has the same memory bandwidth as the GTX 580), and less compute performance for more money. There is nothing mindblowing here. Just Nvidia playing with people's perceptions of a premium product (reference to Titan), while the GTX 780 has double precision disabled.Edited by tpi2007 - 5/26/13 at 6:44pm