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Originally Posted by Regent Square View Post

Thanks, got it.

Why should we get a report from someone? Did we get a report when gk104-25(newer chips used by 770) taped out? I am pretty sure we did not, cause I was following the news from the start.

What I was getting at is this:

If you're going to make a guess, at least make an educated guess that is backed up with some data.

There's a reason why almost no one agrees with your "predictions". wink.gif
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What I was getting at is this:

If you're going to make a guess, at least make an educated guess that is backed up with some data.

There's a reason why almost no one agrees with your "predictions". wink.gif

I did make an educated guess and backed it up with what is logical to consider(aka BF4 release). Plus, all the data(except the tape out dates which sometimes are unveiled to public) you want me refer to comes as a form of rumors(which people believe in more than anything).
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The microstuttering and multi-monitor issues with Crossfire... even with a single card on a single monitor, completely invalidates any comparison between GTX 780 and 7970 in price-performance.

There is no single 7970 crossfire, and single GPU AMD solutions don't have microstuttering issues, except in tiny handful of games, most of which have already been patched.
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Actually with the 13.5 betas 7970 often has better frametimes than GTX 680, with single GPU. I got stuttering in some games with my old GTX 670, BF3 was the worst offender.

CF situation is still awful though.

Pretty much.
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I used to play a lot of Skyrim. 7970s were a stuttering mess, yet BF3 was pretty good. Why should I pay for pretty good here, stuttering mess there, when I can pay for pretty good all the time? I almost think bitcoin was covertly introduced by an AMD exec. No other reason to buy AMD other than a few free games and mining.

What games, with current drivers and patches, have stuttering issues on a single AMD card?
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I'm hoping that someone buys my 7950 so I can update to GTX 780, I'm poor so I have to always sell old parts before getting new ones frown.gif

What are you trying to get for your 7950?
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Drivers are fine for single GPU. Didn't notice any difference compared to nVidia

Nor should you, because there isn't one.
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The FCAT was basically created to test multi-GPUs setup, FRAPS is perfectly fine for single GPU.

FRAPS is not always representative of what the user actually sees, it pulls timing information way too early, in both single and multi-GPU setups.

It's not worthless, but it's sure not "perfectly fine".
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Originally Posted by jomama22 View Post

As I said before. Everyone ignores radeonpro lol.

I ignore RadeonPro because it doesn't often fix the worst issues with CFX microstuttering, where are fix is most needed.
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Originally Posted by maneil99 View Post

Will a single 780 be bottlenecked by PCi-E 8x?

No.
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Someone point me to the right direction please?

Almost no air is going to be exhausted out the back, most it going out the top of the card (away from the PCI-E slot), some is being blow at the motherboard.
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Originally Posted by zinfinion View Post

am i doing it right?

No.
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Originally Posted by zinfinion View Post

More like this

Closer, but the orientation of the heatsink fins is going to direct air toward the top and bottom edges of the PCB. Almost nothing will leave via the I/O braket, and little will leave toward the very end of the card.
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Originally Posted by Regent Square View Post

Thanks, got it.

Why should we get a report from someone? Did we get a report when gk104-25(newer chips used by 770) taped out? I am pretty sure we did not, cause I was following the news from the start.

you don't need to tape out GK104 twice.

You usually get reports from tape outs since there are a bunch of people working at TSMC and the info about AMD/NV doing something is bound to leak out from somewhere.
 
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you don't need to tape out GK104 twice.

You usually get reports from tape outs since there are a bunch of people working at TSMC and the info about AMD/NV doing something is bound to leak out from somewhere.

But I remember(driver debate) you said that gk 104 and gk 110 are alike. If gk 110 got leaked meaning it is somewhat different from gk 104? A bit confused on this part.
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GK110 is a completely different chip...

only the architectures are similar.
 
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GK110 is a completely different chip...

only the architectures are similar.

With this being said, are drivers orientated on an architecture or the chip. What part they make a change in?
post #1768 of 2543
Well all chips need support but in general the driver is designed to make use of the general architecture of each chip.

This is why GCN and Fermi, being new architectures, saw big increases with drivers when they came out. Also why kepler isn't seeing those perf increases and why earlier AMD generations didn't either.
 
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Lets have a bench out!! Can a oc'd titan owner post his valley score and possibly a oc'd 780 owner post his?? Preferably will identical rigs..Ll
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I only had my card on stock cooling though, the only 780 that has been able to come to 8% within of my score was clocked higher and was on water which is what I need to reach higher than 1200MHz in high ambients (winter was heavenly lol)

Though water ought to be a reality soon (Click to show)
 
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