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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

The only issue I'd have with using Titan blocks on 780's is aesthetically. I'm pretty OCD with my hardware and there's no way I could have a block that says "Titan" on it if my cards were 780's. Maybe that's just me though. Otherwise, yeah that AC block is the best looking one for Titan for sure...

That could be seen as a benefit for some, LOL
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The only issue I'd have with using Titan blocks on 780's is aesthetically. I'm pretty OCD with my hardware and there's no way I could have a block that says "Titan" on it if my cards were 780's. Maybe that's just me though. Otherwise, yeah that AC block is the best looking one for Titan for sure...

That's the same issue with me. Hopefully they make one without saying anything on it. that would look even nicer
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Lol, nice. I've seen two lowly Gigabyte GTX 780 in my usual eshop which, by the way, usually has the lowest prices all around except the rare price drop on Amazon, rocking your chair for about 669€. Hope this newcomers fee gets dilluted quickly and we can get a fair trade. thumb.gif
i guess 550-590eur 780 is stock gigabyte with titan cooler and 650+ is the trifan overclocked 780

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REALLY!?!?!?! I have to read through 400+ posts in a single day?
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REALLY!?!?!?! I have to read through 400+ posts in a single day?
It's not worth the read, believe me.
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It's not worth the read, believe me.

I believe you, trust me
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post #1887 of 2543
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Lol, yeah, starting at 12th place... rolleyes.gif

Yeah, 1-2fps when you're at 80 already is an enormous difference that truly will make a big change in your gaming experience. Particularly so when you only gain them by turning your heatsink up to hairdryer noise levels while a custom-cooled card is nice and silent.
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It wont as long as there are people claiming that the 780 is as fast.

And then disappearing after making the statement tongue.gif

I have a life to attend to other than chatting on forums over what amounts to, effectively, semantics and splitting hairs.
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and none at the top. which is what this is about.

as we know you can match a stock or a lightly OC'd titan with an OC'd 780

Again, no one said the 780 at same clocks was faster than a titan at the same clocks. But, it seems the forums are in full lynch mob formation. What was said by people and myself, is that they are so close together the difference is negligible, which you really can't argue objectively that it isn't, and that in some oc-to-oc cases the 780 will beat the Titan depending on how well each given card oc's (which it does, and vice versa).
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The difference between 12th and 10th place is 1%, nothing to brag about there bud, unless of course 1% is worth a 53% price increase? rolleyes.gif

That's exactly the point I've been trying to get across... and if you want to be faster, then you can nearly buy two 780's for the price of a Titan, in which case it's a 30% price increase from there for.... 80%+ more performance. Or, tri-SLI 780s vs. 2 titans for $2k. You can't compare in a vacuum, because unless someone's giving you the cards for free.... well, they aren't, so nevermind. When the performance as far as 1 card to 1 card is so close, I'd say virtually anyone would objectively say the 780 is the better card to pick unless they run an extreme surround resolution, if paying with their own money. Hence why I called the Titan the "780 Surround Edition" in the first place eek.gif .

EDIT: And one last note... the Titans have had about 2.5 months to accrue a good sample size and a few outstanding ones that manage to beat the 780 by a percent or two. It's too early to call the 780 cards as being poor or good clockers since there's what, 5-6 people who even have posted results in the owners' thread for that one yet?
Edited by GoldenTiger - 5/28/13 at 3:15am
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I love how GT continues to spread the fud about the 780 somehow being as fast as the Titan. My favorite one is where he compares superclocked 780's with stock clocked Titans and tries to pretend that that makes the 780 an equally fast card! lachen.gif You do realize they make factory overclocked Titans too don't you? Why not test against them? Oh and of course if its a bench like Valley where no 780 has come even close to the highest Titan scores well naturally that's just Unigine so who cares, right? Lol! Point is that whether you want to admit it or not Titan is indeed faster in every scenario and the numbers bear that out. Now whether or not the performance superiority is worth the exorbitant price is another story. I've already said that if I were buying cards today I'd definitely go for 780's personally...

One of the evga SC 780 reviews where the 780 wins had power consumption being 54w more for the 780 than the Titan in the same test.

Right there tells us why that 780 example is faster. Without a custom bios, the Titan runs into TDP throttling issues well before the 780.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/55725-evga-geforce-gtx-780-superclocked-acx/?page=10

But I see this as good news. If Nvidia is letting vendors set their own TDP for the factory OC cards, it's a win-win.
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I love how GT continues to spread the fud about the 780 somehow being as fast as the Titan. My favorite one is where he compares superclocked 780's with stock clocked Titans and tries to pretend that that makes the 780 an equally fast card! lachen.gif You do realize they make factory overclocked Titans too don't you? Why not test against them? Oh and of course if its a bench like Valley where no 780 has come even close to the highest Titan scores well naturally that's just Unigine so who cares, right? Lol! Point is that whether you want to admit it or not Titan is indeed faster in every scenario and the numbers bear that out. Now whether or not the performance superiority is worth the exorbitant price is another story. I've already said that if I were buying cards today I'd definitely go for 780's personally...
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One of the evga SC 780 reviews where the 780 wins had power consumption being 54w more for the 780 than the Titan in the same test.

Right there tells us why that 780 example is faster. Without a custom bios, the Titan runs into TDP throttling issues well before the 780.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/55725-evga-geforce-gtx-780-superclocked-acx/?page=10

But I see this as good news. If Nvidia is letting vendors set their own TDP for the factory OC cards, it's a win-win.

And how do you explain the best unlocked Titans in the valley chart, which seems to be your much beloved bench, only being low single-digit percentages faster oc-to-oc than 780 samples? They trade blows depending on sample, and people have had Titans for a couple of months to accrue some nice outlier numbers that top the chart (by a negligible amount). Also, where, Majin, can I buy this custom-cooled Titan? I see no models on newegg, amazon, or any other site even listed in existence for the North American market wink.gif. Finally, I did post oc-to-oc reviews, but you dismissed them as "worthless" and "clueless reviewers" along with Alatar earlier in the thread. Now you try to claim that I should be linking that? At least be consistent in your criticisms as to what's relevant or not. rolleyes.gif

Here's the chart you posted again for reference Majin:

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So let's even go with your (admittedly flawed) scenario here. The average great, volt-bios'ed titan that oc's incredibly well, hits ~81fps average for the top several results, while the few results we have of the 780 so far show the top couple (of only a handful so far) hitting ~77. 81 divided by 77 =.... drumroll please, exactly what I've said this whole time: a 5.2% difference, also known as "a couple of frames per second."
Edited by GoldenTiger - 5/28/13 at 3:32am
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And how do you explain the best unlocked Titans in the valley chart, which seems to be your much beloved bench, only being low single-digit percentages faster oc-to-oc than 780 samples? They trade blows depending on sample, and people have had Titans for a couple of months to accrue some nice outlier numbers that top the chart (by a negligible amount). Also, where, Majin, can I buy this custom-cooled Titan? I see no models on newegg, amazon, or any other site even listed in existence for the North American market wink.gif.

I would expect the 780 to be less than 10% behind the Titan in all cases as long as they are built on the same board and are allowed to use the same TDP.

I'm sure there will be some golden 780s that will do even better.

BTW, knock off the childish "beloved" potshot comments if you want to debate anything. I don't see the need for that foolishness.
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