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If you take any golden Titans and 780s, which do you think will come on top? I'm not arguing Titan is a good buy, it's actually a horrible buy but the fact is you're wrong GT.

I'd be interested to see what happens. In theory, Titan should not be losing. It's the same chip but one is slightly more powerful. All things being equal, Titan should win each time.

But as we've seen, that's not the case. The 780 sc acx looks to be a very worthy contender to the throne. Especially if evga was allowed to up the tdp as the testing showed.
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lol, I made a mistake.

I was just playing around, but also pointing that out for ya. smile.gif

I used to think people just argued between Green vs Red, clearly, that's not the case. wink.gif

I wish this whole "discussion" would just end though. Titan owners were led to believe that Titan would be the fastest card for a while.

Although this is still technically true, not many foresaw the 780 coming in $350 lower, and being within ~10% of a Titan a mere 3 months later. If they knew, I doubt as many would have bought Titans, and would've waited for the 780 instead. Live and learn.
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Personally, its a shame that tdp/power limit is holding these cards up. Bios fixes and volt mods are all well and good, but it is a bit ridiculous to have such low limit altering overclocks so drastically.

Though, I do not believe a golden vs golden (780/titan) would result is the 780 being even closer to a titan. It would take upwards of 125-175 MHz on the core over a titan for it to match it. (We are assuming both these golden chips do not throttle when max oc, I do not believe the less throttling of the 780 is enough to make a difference)
     
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I would personnally get 3 x Titan for that resolution. 6GB Vram.

But I am pretty sure 3 x GTX 780 will be the same performance as 4 x HD 7970 for that resolution. (same Vram and same memory bus)

Also with 2 x 780, you will have to cut down on some quality settings. (If you want to get GTX 780 for this resolution, you should get 3 x 780)

But I will probably wait for the HD 8970 and/or HD 9970.


Thanks +rep. I hope the HD 8970 is true from what i have read. But its still rumors. But if it comes with 6gb ram that's gonna be amazing if its around $600
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I was just playing around, but also pointing that out for ya. smile.gif

I used to think people just argued between Green vs Red, clearly, that's not the case. wink.gif

I wish this whole "discussion" would just end though. Titan owners were led to believe that Titan would be the fastest card for a while.

Although this is still technically true, not many foresaw the 780 coming in $350 lower, and being within ~10% of a Titan a mere 3 months later. If they knew, I doubt as many would have bought Titans, and would've waited for the 780 instead. Live and learn.

This is just a very weird time for GPUs. Very tough on the consumer honestly. Hell, what if a 8970 comes out within 6 months that beats a 780 by 10-15% or so? It would officially be the best/worst year for GPUs I have seen in a while. These prices are just getting out of hand.
     
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I was just playing around, but also pointing that out for ya. smile.gif

I used to think people just argued between Green vs Red, clearly, that's not the case. wink.gif

I wish this whole "discussion" would just end though. Titan owners were led to believe that Titan would be the fastest card for a while.

Although this is still technically true, not many foresaw the 780 coming in $350 lower, and being within ~10% of a Titan a mere 3 months later. If they knew, I doubt as many would have bought Titans, and would've waited for the 780 instead. Live and learn.

We will argue anything given the chance! biggrin.gif

I agree with not as many would buy Titan if we knew. But we were warned in advance here on OCN if we were solely gaming to hold off on the Titan. And that warning turned out to be true. But you know what? It's only $350. I've wasted more money on far worse things over my almost 4 decades.
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I was just playing around, but also pointing that out for ya. smile.gif

I used to think people just argued between Green vs Red, clearly, that's not the case. wink.gif

I wish this whole "discussion" would just end though. Titan owners were led to believe that Titan would be the fastest card for a while.

Although this is still technically true, not many foresaw the 780 coming in $350 lower, and being within ~10% of a Titan a mere 3 months later. If they knew, I doubt as many would have bought Titans, and would've waited for the 780 instead. Live and learn.

I agree. Luckily I managed to sell my Titan on Amazon for $910 after fees and shipping cost. What is funny is that I really would like to pick up a 780, but I am having second thoughts about dropping the money on it. I am going to hold out to see what the 770 comes priced at and see what effect it has on 670\680 prices.
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We will argue anything given the chance! biggrin.gif

I agree with not as many would buy Titan if we knew. But we were warned in advance here on OCN if we were solely gaming to hold off on the Titan. And that warning turned out to be true. But you know what? It's only $350. I've wasted more money on far worse things over my almost 4 decades.

What warnings besides rumors? And even then how could anybody know Nvidia would shoot themselves in the foot by releasing the GTX780 with performance so close to the almighty Titan. I mean you don't give it the name of Titan to be out done only 3 months later. The best 780 should never be able to even touch the worst Titan, unless the price difference was marginal and/or the Titan should have been named something like GTX785.
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Honestly, a lot of what GoldenTiger is saying makes sense to me. But then again, I don't own a Titan or a 780 to know much about these cards lol (I would buy a 780 though if I had the money now)
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This is just a very weird time for GPUs. Very tough on the consumer honestly. Hell, what if a 8970 comes out within 6 months that beats a 780 by 10-15% or so? It would officially be the best/worst year for GPUs I have seen in a while. These prices are just getting out of hand.

This is definitely one of the weirdest gens we've had in a while. I'm on the fence about getting a 780 out of principle. But in the grand scheme of things, it's not like me NOT buying it will make a big difference, ha ha. i'm just not a fan of this current price paradigm, and it all began with GK104 selling as a 680.

I hate sounding like I'm always blaming AMD, but man, them not sticking to their yearly release cycle didn't help this gen.

An 8970 20% faster than 7970GE would've kept the 780 at $499.
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We will argue anything given the chance! biggrin.gif

I agree with not as many would buy Titan if we knew. But we were warned in advance here on OCN if we were solely gaming to hold off on the Titan. And that warning turned out to be true. But you know what? It's only $350. I've wasted more money on far worse things over my almost 4 decades.

So true. I will for sure be listening to Masked more closely with his future "predictions". He had both a Titan & 780 before Titan released, and he did say people should wait. With so much speculation that gets thrown around all the time, you never know who truly has insider info.

Word on the street is we may see a 790 sometime this year. wink.gif

No idea how that will be priced though...
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I agree. Luckily I managed to sell my Titan on Amazon for $910 after fees and shipping cost. What is funny is that I really would like to pick up a 780, but I am having second thoughts about dropping the money on it. I am going to hold out to see what the 770 comes priced at and see what effect it has on 670\680 prices.
What warnings besides rumors? And even then how could anybody know Nvidia would shoot themselves in the foot by releasing the GTX780 with performance so close to the almighty Titan. I mean you don't give it the name of Titan to be out done only 3 months later. The best 780 should never be able to even touch the worst Titan, unless the price difference was marginal and/or the Titan should have been named something like GTX785.

Well played on selling your Titan, by the looks of it the 770 will come in between $399 - $499. I honestly wouln't be surprised if it's $450 - $500, simply because early leaks show it's faster than 7970GE.

About the warnings, I am almost certain he is talking about Masked...
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Vendors clamored for the card because there hasn't been price-point competition for a while.

It will be a full run but, once again, it's not exactly aimed at the gamer.

They're aiming this card at 2 markets.

1) Boutique builds that can conform to smaller cases...Like the Falcon/Alienware/Cyberpower form factor boutiques -- Where idiots pay 3-4k for them. (Notice the low power settings??? That's why)

2) Researchers/Folders etc -- This is where the card will really be worth every penny. ~ It fits a gap where there is NO competition currently -- They'll make a killing.

Ultimately, you can still buy this card to game on but, you're wasting your money if you're JUST gaming.

$1,000 is a higher price-point then vendors were initially told ~ I'd hold out and see what the #'s really are.

Still, this card isn't aimed at gamers...I'll quote AnandTech's preview page 2:
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Titan is also going to be NVIDIA’s entry-level compute card. We’ll dive more into why that is in a bit in our feature breakdown, but the biggest factor is that for the first time on any consumer-level NVIDIA card, double precision (FP64) performance is uncapped. That means 1/3 FP32 performance, or roughly 1.3TFLOPS theoretical FP64 performance. NVIDIA has taken other liberties to keep from this being treated as a cheap Tesla K20, but for lighter workloads it should fit the bill.

While it is a "nice" gaming card, it's multi-faceted so, ultimately if you're just buying this card to game on, you're doing it wrong.

The 7-series will be launched later this quarter ~ If you're out of to fold or crunch, the Titan is most certainly for you but, if you're gaming...Wait till March/April.


It actually is a nice card. It comes at a pricepoint where there is 0 competition in that market. Nvidia will make a total killing.

For the gamer, you have other options that are right around the corner. That will be better for gaming.

If you fold + game, you can't beat the card. It's genuinely a nice card.

If you just game and have a mid-tower, this card isn't for you, you can do better by exercising some patience.

I have plenty of nice things to say about this card but, they aren't geared at gaming because for $1000, you can actually do better with SLI.

I have quad 680's on my current rig, I do agree there are major SLI issues on the X79 platform, same is true of Crossfire but, once again, I strongly urge those of you who have the cash, to wait just a bit longer and a better option for GAMING, will be readily available.

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Thanks +rep. I hope the HD 8970 is true from what i have read. But its still rumors. But if it comes with 6gb ram that's gonna be amazing if its around $600

3GB and 6GB is whats being thrown around and guess which one will come 1st with the latter months later.
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